Various and Constant BSOD's.

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  1. Posts : 17
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       #1

    Various and Constant BSOD's.


    Various and Constant BSOD's.

    Relevant Files here:
    Minidump and DxDiag Files available from Dropbox

    UPDATED: Attachment 355246

    All components are new as detailed below:

    CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
    Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
    Memory: Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
    Storage: Crucial MX100 512GB 2.5" Solid State DriveMSI GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card
    Case: Corsair SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case
    Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)
    Case Fan: Corsair Air Series Purple 2 pack 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan
    Case Fan: Corsair Air Series Purple 2 pack 52.2 CFM 120mm Fan
    Monitor: AOC G2460PQU 144Hz 24.0" Monitor

    Since day 1 I've had problems with BSOD's, My initial investigation's lead down the routes of un-installing Avast and then running memtest86/64. When I run memtest64 in windows it produces errors, I believe this is due to using all available memory and getting into a deadlock state. When I run memtest86 off a USB drive no errors are reported. I've left it running for 10 passes, no errors found. I believe this is the better memtest to run, unless advised differently.

    However I bought an identical set of memory and have tried them and still I'm getting random BSODs.

    I'v tried each of the four sticks in each of the four slots available, I'm still getting BSOD's In Slot Two and Four together and Slot 1 and 3 together. I've tried with each of 4 sticks in all 4 slots.

    However the more I've investigated the less I think it's Memory.

    I have re-installed my system 4 times, fully updated Win7 with all patch's, only used manufacturer drivers for the Motherboard.

    I haven't Overclocked anything, everything is running with default settings.

    Bios for the motherboard hasn't been updated as it's the current version 1.9.

    I have run sfc.exe /scannow and no problems where reported.

    Code:
    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
    Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.
    C:\Users\Steve Arthur>sfc.exe /scannow
    Beginning system scan.  This process will take some time.
    Beginning verification phase of system scan.
    Verification 100% complete.
    Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.
    I'm now going to set "verifier" following these instructions:

    Go to Start and type in "verifier" (without the quotes) and press Enter
    Select "Create custom settings (for code developers)" and click "Next" (or Type "verifier /standard /all" (no quotes) if you want to verify all of them (this will slow your computer down))
    Select "Select individual settings from a full list" and click "Next"
    Select everything EXCEPT FOR "Low Resource Simulation" and for win 8 don't check Concurrency stress test, and DDI compliance checking click "Next"
    Select "Select driver names from a list" and click "Next"
    Then select all drivers NOT provided by Microsoft and click "Next"
    Select "Finish" on the next page.
    Reboot the system and wait for it to crash to the Blue Screen.
    Continue to use your system normally, and if you know what causes the crash, do that repeatedly. The objective here is to get the system to crash because Driver Verifier is stressing the drivers out. If it doesn't crash for you, then let it run for at least 36 hours of continuous operation.
    If you can't get into Windows because it crashes too soon, try it in Safe Mode.
    If you can't get into Safe Mode, try using System Restore from your installation DVD to set the system back to the previous restore point that you created.
    As you'll be able to see a common failure is due to Kernel System Error and often related to Graphics cards.

    However there are also files attributed to the LAN drivers and other drivers, so I don't now know what else to check.

    Further Investigations

    I've Breadboarded and stripped the whole thing down to only crucial parts required to get Win7 to load and I'm still getting BSOD's.

    I haven't connected USB 2/3 Cables or Sound cables. Only cables connected are power to motherboard and JFP1 System Panel connectors and the stock CPU fan cable.

    I've examined the motherboard back and front and I haven't noticed anything that looks out of the ordinary.

    CPU has been taken out cleaned, pins in the socket appear undamaged. I've set it back up with new Thermal Compound.

    Temperatures haven't been a problem.

    I've had three different BSOD's today.

    Please advise how I can go about determining what is the root cause of my problem.

    BSOD'S in this Order:

    SPECIAL_POOL_DETECTED_MEMORY_CORRUPTION
    PAGE_FAULT_BEYOND_END_OF_ALLOCATION
    BAD_POOL_HEADER
    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
    NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM
    BAD_POOL_HEADER
    SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION
    SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION
    BAD_POOL_HEADER
    MEMORY_MANAGEMENT
    SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
    IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
    NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM
    Last edited by badbud65; 06 Apr 2015 at 12:32. Reason: adding new files
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  2. Posts : 2,573
    Win7 Ultimate X64
       #2

    Im having trouble getting your dumps to load but I think that's because my connection is flaky at best and symbols are not downloading
    Please upload your files directly to your post next time
    Heres the files for any other members that want to have a look

    Attachment 355244
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  3. Posts : 17
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Pauly said:
    I'm having trouble getting your dumps to load but I think that's because my connection is flaky at best and symbols are not downloading
    Please upload your files directly to your post next time
    Heres the files for any other members that want to have a look

    Attachment 355244
    Thanks I've updated the opening thread.
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  4. Posts : 17
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Can anyone help please?

    I'm getting a new motherboard today and will try that later, but if someone could review my files and see if there's anything there that may be causing these issues I'd be grateful.
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  5. Posts : 646
    NT4
       #5

    While a few of your BSOD's mention memory corruption quite a lot of them blame MBfilt64.sys which is a realtek audio driver

    Driver Reference Table - MBfilt64.sys

    Code:
     
    *******************************************************************************
    *                                                                             *
    *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
    *                                                                             *
    *******************************************************************************
    Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.
    BugCheck A, {1f0, 2, 0, fffff8000347ef35}
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for MBfilt64.sys
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for MBfilt64.sys
    Probably caused by : MBfilt64.sys ( MBfilt64+1817 )
    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------
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  6. Posts : 17
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #6

    I haven't installed any Drivers except what Win7 install does. BSOD's dated 04/04/2015 @ 23:21 are with just windows drivers.

    The earlier BSOD's were with the motherboard drivers which included Realtech ones, which BSOD's are you seeing this problem in?
    Last edited by badbud65; 08 Apr 2015 at 05:27.
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  7. Posts : 17
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #7

    SGT Oddball said:
    While a few of your BSOD's mention memory corruption quite a lot of them blame MBfilt64.sys which is a realtek audio driver

    Driver Reference Table - MBfilt64.sys

    Code:
     
    *******************************************************************************
    *                                                                             *
    *                        Bugcheck Analysis                                    *
    *                                                                             *
    *******************************************************************************
    Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.
    BugCheck A, {1f0, 2, 0, fffff8000347ef35}
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for MBfilt64.sys
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for MBfilt64.sys
    Probably caused by : MBfilt64.sys ( MBfilt64+1817 )
    Followup: MachineOwner
    ---------
    I've installed the recommended driver and now I'm running a Prime Blend test. Wish me luck

    If it's this driver causing all these problems I'll be happy. I would have thought though that the windows drivers would be fine and not buggy?

    And that site is an awesome fount of tech knowledge, thanks.
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  8. Posts : 17
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Bad News:

    Installing that driver didn't resolve the BSOD'S, file updated in DropBox with last error.

    The machine when first turned on seems to function normally for up to 2 hours, then at around the 2 hour mark the BSOD's start, after this when rebooting it will BSOD within 5 to 10 mins constantly until left off for a good half hour.

    Further Information:

    I installed Ubuntu anyway, no loss in doing that, then I ran Prime for a good 10 hours overnight along with 'stress' and finding that the machine is still up and running after being left on overnight.

    However I'm not sure of a few things, even though Prime was running and causing some load when looking at 'top' and CPU heat was hovering around 45 C, indicating it's being loaded as the idle temp is around 20 C. I'm not sure even in this situation the machine is being stressed in the same way, so not having any errors doesn't mean there still isn't an issue with hardware. Although it could mean a Driver issue in Windows.

    ALSO:

    I have a sneaky suspicion that my CPU could be an RMA'ed component as it's clocked at 3.7 GHz not the stock 3.5 GHz, although it's Boost value is 3.9 GHz so it may just be that.

    However would you expect to get a new CPU that was clocking higher than it's stated stock value?
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  9. Posts : 2,573
    Win7 Ultimate X64
       #9

    A cpu can only clock what it is set to in the bios
    I would turn off any overclock settings you may have and also any intel boost or turbo while you are troubleshooting your problems.
    Sometimes when the bios turns on boost mode on the cpu and/or memory (XMP) it will auto increase voltages to accommodate and this can sometimes cause problems and instability
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  10. Posts : 17
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #10

    NOTE: The system is BSOD'ing with just the bare bones installed, the GTX960 isn't installed whilst I'm troubleshooting.

    In fact it's literally being breadboarded.

    I reinstalled Win7 last night, no drivers, no updates installed and ran Prime95 Blend Test and it BSOD at just over 4 hours, no errors in Prime seen.

    Voltage to CPU set to 1.2v and Memory set to 1.5v, boost turned off.

    My next test will be changing the PSU to a Corsair CP-9020077-UK Builder Series 650W CS650M ATX/EPS Semi-Modular 80 Plus Gold Power Supply Unit, later this evening and test again, if after that I still get a BSOD then I'll replace the Motherboard.

    I've already ordered a replacement CPU which I'll get next week and if none of the above resolves the problem then the CPU will be the only item that hasn't been replaced left to test.
    Last edited by badbud65; 10 Apr 2015 at 08:28.
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