BSOD While Playing Games, 15 Minutes After Boot, and Completely Random

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  1. Posts : 67
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       #11

    ICIT2LOL said:
    Ok mate if you are not confident with the reg stuff then leave alone - it is quite simple once you get to know how to do it though, and as long as you keep a back up copy of it - it safeguards you making big mistakes. Registry - Backup and Restore
    Anyway if the bits left over from Iobits and whatever else you have removed are not causing any further problems the reg can stay as is. You might like to use this once everything has settled down it uses some reg changes and is written by one of the Admin staff who is just brilliant and it might give you some idea of reg things Optimize Windows 7 I follow this on all of my machines and it is surprising a) what you can learn from it and b) how much more efficient the machine runs.
    Thanks for this info. I will check over the registry and see if there are any remnants of IOBit if my PC BSODs again.

    Golden said:
    SickOfTheBSOD said:
    I want to know exactly why Avast was causing me problems? I've read good things about it and I've heard good reviews of it.
    Only the coders and programmers of Avasts will know that. Essentially Avast is conflicting with Windows to the point that it causes a crash. Why this only happens on some systems and not others is a mystery....perhaps even to Avast.

    Iobit is not well regarded - search Google as to why that is, and form your own opinion.

    This thread can open as long as you like, till you feel the BSOD has been solved.
    Alright. I'll accept that Avast just won't work on this PC. I have MSSE on it right now. What would you suggest then in place of IOBit? I heard Revo Uninstaller is a good choice.

    ICIT2LOL said:
    Agree with Golden and for what it is worth I have used IObits way back and it was a pig of a thing then and still is and used to be very hard to get rid of.
    OK, what would you suggest to take its place? I heard Revo Uninstaller mentioned a couple of times. I just want a program that can remove remnants better than the standard Windows "Remove/Uninstall Programs" option.

    axe0 said:
    To the OP FYI
       Warning
    Programs that claim to update your drivers install either the wrong or corrupted drivers.
    If you have installed any driver with Driver Booster, please remove them as it may cause trouble.
    That might be a problem. I updated a lot of drivers. If my Pc BSODs again, I will investigate further. I will cease using the program Driver Booster from this point on though. I was a little desperate when I started using it as I couldn't figure out what was causing the BSOD. Thanks everyone involved for helping me narrow down what the underlying causes could be. Before, I was completely in the dark about what was causing it.

    Also, since I still nee to uninstall and reinstall the Nvidia drivers, I want to make sure I do it properly. What is the CORRECT way to do this? I'd rather not mess up my PC further through error. I've heard a couple of ways to remove driver software from Nvidia effectively. One of them involves DDU (Device Driver Uninstaller; originally Driver Sweeper). Would you recommend me to do it this way? Since this is the next step, I want to make sure I do this right so, if you can, please tell me how to a) uninstall correctly and b) how to install correctly just so I make sure I don't mess up anything further.

    P.S: Here is an attached text file of my MemTest86+'s output on the screen. If I put anything up there that is considered private, I apologize. I just want to be as thorough as possible so that you can help me as much as you can. Thanks again, everyone.
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    SickOfTheBSOD said:
    Thanks for the replies. My McAfee expires in a few days and then I will remove it.

    @Golden, I'll follow your instructions for uninstalling the Nvidia products/drivers. However, once I update to the latest version using Windows Update, how should I proceed for future updates? Should I just forget about Nvidia GeForce Experience and rely on WU by itself?

    Damn, Avast too? Alright. Hopefully once this is resolved I can go back to Avast.

    My last question is what is so bad about IOBitUninstaller? First the retailer repair team removed it and now you. Why is it so bad? (I will still remove it).

    What is a good program to make sure most remnants will be removed when uninstalling another program?

    @ICIT2LOL, my first thought was that it might have been the McAfee drivers, so I was planning on removing McAfee anyway. Once the time expires (couple of days) I'll get to it. I downloaded Memtest86+. I used MemTest to run my previous RAM check. Is there that much of a difference to the two?

    @Both, thanks again for your suggestions. I'll get back to you with results in a couple of days.
    Sorry I missed that bit about the memtest if it was the one linked in that tutorial then yes it is the one to use but you must run it for at least 8 passes as I described before (I think).
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  3. Posts : 67
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       #13

    I'm currently testing my PC to see if anything else will bring up a BSOD. So far, so good. Was able to play GTA: Online for a good two hours. I'm also having luck idling my PC for 15-30 mins without problems.

    I will monitor this for about a week and will then decide if the problem is fixed or not. Thank you all who were involved in helping me.
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  4. Posts : 67
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       #14

    EMERGENCY!!!

    After a few very good test runs, I assumed my PC was good to go; however, when I went to turn it on today, it won't even boot!!! I don't know what to do! It just powers on, fan turns on, makes a beep, then shuts down; it will continue to do this until I cut power to it. I'm aware this isn't BSOD-related but I need help, otherwise it's another trip to the retail store. UGH!!!
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       #15

    Hmm suspect a heat problem with the CPU myself is there any way you can see what the temps are running at?? If you can that may be there in the BIOS have a look and post back.

    Just as matter of interest how fast do the fans spin at - if they spin extremely fast it would bear out my suspicions.
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       #16

    Check the BIOS beep codes for the motherboard on the Dell site - try to determine what a single beep means. That points to the error.
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       #17

    Yep that is a point and the codes are here Understanding Beep Codes on a Dell Desktop PC | Dell US and if the one beep is anything to go by it looks to be motherboard or BIOS corruption.
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  8. Posts : 67
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    Thanks for the quick replies. Sorry to make it so urgent but I panicked again. I used to have this problem back when I was getting BSODs from the old GPU. So, after talking to the people who fixed my PC before, the supervisor explained it was a "boot loop error". I described to him exactly what happened and he told me that it could have been my RAM didn't "flush correctly" and had some temp files or something that weren't acting right. So, in other words, even though my PC had a clean shutdown, something in the RAM wasn't "cooperating", so I was instructed to power down (unplug, hold power button, "flush" all power out my PC).

    So, my PC could not turn on during the afternoon; however, when I tried later last night, it booted up normally. I'm going to chalk this up as an "incomplete RAM flush" and call it a day. I will monitor this for the future and let you know if it happens again. As for the progress since you all helped me, my PC is working just as it used to. Thank you for the info and quick replies. I'll keep this up a little longer and then mark it solved if no other problems are encountered.

    Is it possible that any further "boot loops" could be a result of a bad RAM stick?
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       #19

    Absolutely in my book mate and it would be worth a try depending on what size sticks you have - if the problem starts up again try removing the sticks one by one and see if that makes any difference.

    I am sure another memtest might be worth it too - never know if a previous one did not pick up anything - doubtful but possible as is everything.
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  10. Posts : 67
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       #20

    Update (1/16/16)


    Hello all.

    I've been quite busy and haven't really had any time to further update you all, but, I'm on my PC now and previous tests have shown normal operation.

    One question before I "Mark as Solved" though:

    If I encounter any further problems AFTER I mark this thread as solved, can I request it to be reopened?

    If not, do I just make a new BSOD thread?

    Thanks.
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