BSOD shortly after login without opening anything error 0x000000F4

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  1. Posts : 7
    W7 Professional SP1 x64
       #1

    BSOD shortly after login without opening anything error 0x000000F4


    I have had occasionally rare BSOD and didn't really pay much attention, but they started to become more and more frequent and now windows normal mode has become unusable as it will BSOD shortly after login.
    I can only use in safe more and sometimes even in safe more it encounters error mode and shuts down.

    Error 0x000000F4 is the most common, sometimes it is error 0x0000007A KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR

    I have removed all 4 memory modules and tried them one by one.
    I have removed GEFORCE videocard and using on board video.
    I have removed other attached HDs, removed USB hubs

    I tried Norton boot scan, to scan SSD booting from USB
    I use Bitdefender.
    Virus and spyware like Malwarebytes find nothing.

    I don't know what else to try, I can't figure out what could be causing it.
    I am posting this from safemode as I can't use this PC more than just a few minutes otherwise.

    Attached is the requested file.

    Thank you
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  2. Posts : 82
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
       #2

    Hello and welcome to the Forum

    It looks as if your SSD might be giving problems. Do you have a utility that you can use to test the SSD and check that its firmware is up to date? You can also run a test like HD Tune to see if it is working properly.
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  3. Posts : 7
    W7 Professional SP1 x64
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Thank you, and thank you for the quick reply. I also have been thinking the SSD might be the problem.

    I wanted to add that in addition to the things I did above I have also done the following:

    Deleted and uninstalled Intel items under "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers"
    Deselected all startup items in "MSCONFIG"
    Also tested the SSD with Seatools and also with Sandisk SSD dashboard - passed all the diagnostic tests.
    Updated the SSD firmware creating a bootable USB using Sandisk SSD dashboard.

    But the problem continues
    I will try HD Tune ...
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  4. Posts : 7
    W7 Professional SP1 x64
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Here are screenshots of HD tune.
    A full error scan was all green, health all looks good and benchmark read ... cannot do benchmark write

    However I noticed something.

    Everytime I get a BSOD, before it happens, I hear a faint hissing or screeching sound that I can't tell
    where it comes from... I hear the sound, and then things start to lock up, then BSOD

    I tried the file benchmark with 500MB and when it got ot 300 I heard the sound.
    Then HD tune locked up and I got the message that due to an error windows would reboot in 1 minute.

    So I was able to do the file benchmark with 100MB, 200MB and 300MB.
    Didn't do 400 or 500 ... got brave and did 600MB

    First time HD tune aborted the test.

    Did it again, and the second time it triggered a BSOD.

    Now that I think about it, first few BSODs I was downloading large files... but now just sitting idle in non safe mode it BSOD

    Ok, so I guess I narrowed it down to my SSD?

    But what does it mean? Is it trash?
    Can I clone it to a new SSD and dispose of this one?

    Is it fixable?

    But why it runs okay in safe mode?

    What are my options? Do I have any?
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  5. Posts : 7
    W7 Professional SP1 x64
    Thread Starter
       #5

    It just passed ... and I was able to post this file benchmark with 500MB in non safe mode
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  6. Posts : 82
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
       #6

    That's great progress and I would suggest the next task is to work out what triggers the problem in normal mode rather than safe mode. The SSD looks to be OK from all the tests you have run. Make sure the cable is properly inserted and not coming loose just in case you have an intermittent failure there.

    A clean boot is a bit like safe mode and like you were doing before you turn off all startup programs but also turn off all non-Microsoft services too. See if it runs OK and if so gradually introduce back the other services until you find the one that triggers the problem.
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  7. Posts : 7
    W7 Professional SP1 x64
    Thread Starter
       #7

    I have disabled all non-Microsoft services but I'm still getting occasional BSOD.
    It's definitely more usable, I'm posting this from normal mode.

    I'm going to start uninstalling software and move all files (pics, videos etc.) to another drive...

    So all the logs I collected and uploaded here don't help pinpoint the cause?
    I knew that Error 0x000000F4 is storage related, but I thought it would help to collect the dump files and post them here... don't those files contain info on what caused the stop error?
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  8. Posts : 82
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit
       #8

    Here are some of the findings from the dump file for the last crash:

    Code:
    CRITICAL_OBJECT_TERMINATION (f4)
    A process or thread crucial to system operation has unexpectedly exited or been
    terminated.
    Several processes and threads are necessary for the operation of the
    system; when they are terminated (for any reason), the system can no
    longer function.
    Arguments:
    Arg1: 0000000000000003, Process
    Arg2: fffffa800745b060, Terminating object
    Arg3: fffffa800745b340, Process image file name
    Arg4: fffff800027660d0, Explanatory message (ascii)
    
    EXCEPTION_RECORD:  fffff88003ff5a38 -- (.exr 0xfffff88003ff5a38)
    ExceptionAddress: 00000000771d71ee
       ExceptionCode: c0000006 (In-page I/O error)
      ExceptionFlags: 00000000
    NumberParameters: 3
       Parameter[0]: 0000000000000000
       Parameter[1]: 000007fefcc8e8c0
       Parameter[2]: 00000000c000000e
    Inpage operation failed at 000007fefcc8e8c0, due to I/O error 00000000c000000e
    
    
    IO_ERROR: (NTSTATUS) 0xc000000e - A device which does not exist was specified.

    My best guess is that the drive is momentarily disconnecting and appears not to exist - which is why I suggested checking it more thoroughly and also to check the cables were properly inserted. If you have another drive you can try then this should help to confirm if it is drive related.
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  9. Posts : 7
    W7 Professional SP1 x64
    Thread Starter
       #9

    philc43 said:

    My best guess is that the drive is momentarily disconnecting and appears not to exist - which is why I suggested checking it more thoroughly and also to check the cables were properly inserted. If you have another drive you can try then this should help to confirm if it is drive related.
    Oh... in that case I am going to replace the SATA cable (since I have other laying around) and also swap the power connector, see what happens.

    Thanks!
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  10. Posts : 7
    W7 Professional SP1 x64
    Thread Starter
       #10

    *Update

    I have been traveling a lot lately and have not been using this home PC very much (I replaced the SATA cables and power connectors since my last post) however I can report that so far, the few times I've used it, I've not experienced any BSOD event... if I get to use it more and it continues to be good I will report it here and close out this.

    Thanks for all your help and suggestions so far!! Very much appreciated! :)
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