Startup problem related to User Acct. Control Setting


  1. Posts : 21
    XPx64 Pro & Win7x64 Ultimate
       #1

    Startup problem related to User Acct. Control Setting


    Hope this hasn't been covered to death. I searched extensively and couldn't find quite the same problem.

    I installed Win7 x64 Ultimate over the weekend. I previously had Beta & RC as a dual boot in addition to XPx64. I'm now running Win7 alone, though I have the HDD with XPx64 set aside "just in case".

    Everything has gone pretty well. A few driver/compatibility issues so far, but nothing major.

    Now to the problem. At some point I decided I was sick of seeing the permission? pop-up showing up every time I opened an app., so I changed the User Account Control from "level 3" to "level 1". No problem here, I rebooted and restarted several times after this with no issues.

    At some later point, the Action Center was warning me about the UAC, and I absentmindedly allowed it to reset that UAC setting.

    The next time I turned the machine on, it hung up BIGTIME once the wallpaper & icons were visible. A couple gadgets weren't loading and any time I clicked with the mouse I would get the "not responding" message. It never got past this "stage"

    I restarted the machine (via the reset button because nothing in Windows itself was responding) a few times with the same results. Eventually I Safe Moded and did a System Recovery to my last manual recovery point.

    Rebooted and voila!, perfect startup 2 or 3 times consecutively.

    Just the same, I tested this and reset the UAC up to "level 2", rebooted, and once again MAJOR hangup at exactly the same point as before.

    I reset the UAC control back down manually, restarted and again, started up perfectly.

    Anybody encounter this and/or figure out what the deal is with it? I might want it at "level 2" just to be secure.

    System:
    CPU -Intel Q9505 (2.83GHz) Quad Core
    Motherboard -ASUS P5Q Deluze
    RAM -8GB (Centon (4x2048MB) PC6400 DDR2 800MHz)
    Video -EVGA GeForce 8800 GTS
    Audio -Onboard w/SoundMax Driver
    HDD1 (OS) -1TB Seagate Barracuda (SATA)
    HDD2 (Media) -1.5TB Seagate (SATA)
    HDD3 (Acronis) -500GB Samsung (SATA)
    DVD R/RW -HP Lightscribe x2 (SATA)

    Hauppauge TV Tuner Card
    USB Hub Card

    OS -Windows 7 Ultimate
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  2. Posts : 13,354
    Windows 7 Professional x64
       #2

    Hello arpharazon,

    I am not familiar with this problem. I just tried it myself, and I have no problems. I also tried Googling it, to no avail. Perhaps something corrupted.

    First, try scanning for bad system files: Open an elevated command prompt, and type sfc /scannow.

    If that does not work, you can try a Repair Install.

    If bad comes to worst, a Clean Install should take care of it, and if it doesn't, we can do some more experimenting.

    Good luck!
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  3. Posts : 28,845
    Win 8 Release candidate 8400
       #3

    arpharazon said:
    Hope this hasn't been covered to death. I searched extensively and couldn't find quite the same problem.

    I installed Win7 x64 Ultimate over the weekend. I previously had Beta & RC as a dual boot in addition to XPx64. I'm now running Win7 alone, though I have the HDD with XPx64 set aside "just in case".

    Everything has gone pretty well. A few driver/compatibility issues so far, but nothing major.

    Now to the problem. At some point I decided I was sick of seeing the permission? pop-up showing up every time I opened an app., so I changed the User Account Control from "level 3" to "level 1". No problem here, I rebooted and restarted several times after this with no issues.

    At some later point, the Action Center was warning me about the UAC, and I absentmindedly allowed it to reset that UAC setting.

    The next time I turned the machine on, it hung up BIGTIME once the wallpaper & icons were visible. A couple gadgets weren't loading and any time I clicked with the mouse I would get the "not responding" message. It never got past this "stage"

    I restarted the machine (via the reset button because nothing in Windows itself was responding) a few times with the same results. Eventually I Safe Moded and did a System Recovery to my last manual recovery point.

    Rebooted and voila!, perfect startup 2 or 3 times consecutively.

    Just the same, I tested this and reset the UAC up to "level 2", rebooted, and once again MAJOR hangup at exactly the same point as before.

    I reset the UAC control back down manually, restarted and again, started up perfectly.

    Anybody encounter this and/or figure out what the deal is with it? I might want it at "level 2" just to be secure.

    System:
    CPU -Intel Q9505 (2.83GHz) Quad Core
    Motherboard -ASUS P5Q Deluze
    RAM -8GB (Centon (4x2048MB) PC6400 DDR2 800MHz)
    Video -EVGA GeForce 8800 GTS
    Audio -Onboard w/SoundMax Driver
    HDD1 (OS) -1TB Seagate Barracuda (SATA)
    HDD2 (Media) -1.5TB Seagate (SATA)
    HDD3 (Acronis) -500GB Samsung (SATA)
    DVD R/RW -HP Lightscribe x2 (SATA)

    Hauppauge TV Tuner Card
    USB Hub Card

    OS -Windows 7 Ultimate
    Hi and welcome

    i am not sure of you are having a true BSOD. If you are use these to help you find the dmp file created. https://www.sevenforums.com/crash-loc...d-problem.html. If not and it is just a hang or freeze you are going to need to find out why it is happening

    As a start type eventvwr in search. go to the windows logs>application tab and look for errors (they have red in the left hand column). You are looking for app hangs, app crashes, etc. when you find them and there is a lot of data, use the built in snipping tool (type snipping in search) to make a screenshot and the attachment icon (shaped like a paperclip) on the reply form. see pics for all three

    Ken J+
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  4. Posts : 21
    XPx64 Pro & Win7x64 Ultimate
    Thread Starter
       #4

    OK, I think I did everything right (attachments below). Only a few "warnings" relating to Winlogin. The only "errors" are related to Acronis not working and they are much earlier in time than the current problem.

    I included 1 of the Event Properties' specific info.

    Hope this helps. I'm really only willing to do a repair at this point. Too much else has been installed.
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  5. Posts : 13,354
    Windows 7 Professional x64
       #5

    arpharazon said:
    OK, I think I did everything right (attachments below). Only a few "warnings" relating to Winlogin. The only "errors" are related to Acronis not working and they are much earlier in time than the current problem.

    I included 1 of the Event Properties' specific info.

    Hope this helps. I'm really only willing to do a repair at this point. Too much else has been installed.
    That could be why, you never know. It is probably a program interfering with the OS. When you do a Clean Install, you do 2 things:

    1. Create a fresh installation with no errors
    2. You get to reinstall all your programs one-by-one. If you're observant, perhaps you can figure out what the problem is.
      My Computer


  6. Posts : 21
    XPx64 Pro & Win7x64 Ultimate
    Thread Starter
       #6

    When I said a lots of apps, remember, I said none of them were installed just before this issue arose.

    But maybe one of them is interfering after the fact somehow.


    Edit: I did do an installation repair and have been able to change the UAC settings.
    Last edited by arpharazon; 22 Dec 2009 at 20:27.
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