Windows 7 Forums
Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: New installation Windows 7 keeps hanging

07 Jan 2010   #11
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

You'll notice the supply listed there was included with the case. ut oh! It's not the wattage so much with only a single hard drive in use if you are running stock but the quality of supplies tossed in on package deals for cases! Tepid does a valid point there about getting into a good name supply over the low quality typically seen with cheap supplies included.

When mentioning power supply wattage that brings to mind the power supply calculator seen at Antec Power Supply Calculator

With 5 sata HDs, two optical drives, and a tv tuner card tossed into the mix here the recommended is 587w minimum using that with a 700w OCZ supply in use. Even running this one stock I left a little extra to cover things a bit.

For a new build seeing problems nothing can be ruled out until the actual problem is traced. That will mean going back over everything! Once you can rule out one of the things mentioned already you have to go onto the next.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
07 Jan 2010   #12
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Quote:
When mentioning power supply wattage that brings to mind the power supply calculator seen at Antec Power Supply Calculator

With 5 sata HDs, two optical drives, and a tv tuner card tossed into the mix here the recommended is 587w minimum using that with a 700w OCZ supply in use. Even running this one stock I left a little extra to cover things a bit.
PSU Calcs are nice and all, but I advise always adding 100 to 200 W over what they recommend.

I generally don't use them.
I use a deductive reasoning....

Old Systems ran on about 350W just a bit prior to 2000. After 2000, it was in the 450W - 500W range for a long time. You never really needed more than that. Now, with the Video Cards on the market, more than one HDD, and all the USB crap we tend to use. 550 is minimum for a system using on-board graphics, one HDD, a DVD RW, and a few USB devices.
you start adding stuff like higher end video, extra HDD's etc, add about 50W to 100W per Internal device to be sure you are leaving head room. ie, Video Card (550 + 100W= 650W minimum), if it's a Hard Drive or Optical drive, only add 50W. Not exactly per HDD, but maybe 50W per 2 HDD's or Optical Drives.

That is just a rough over view, it's not an exact science, but if used with a bit of logical reasoning, it gives you a good overall estimated wattage required.

Look at my specs,,, personally, If I added another 2 HDD's I would add another 50W to 100W (so 800W to 850W PSU).

Hope that helps and is not too confusing.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
07 Jan 2010   #13
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

That's what ended up being the case here with the 700w supply being 113w over what that showed. Once the next build is up and running then I can crank things up on this one for a bit to see just what it will handle. But I also have to look at the first board for this one simply quitting in 3 days time when first built!

RMA time!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

08 Jan 2010   #14
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Well I'm glad you guys agree with my original assessment. 450 watts isn't even close to enough no matter which way you cut it.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
08 Jan 2010   #15
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Not completely... We don't know what Video is being used,, On-Board or other.

I used the calc listed above,,,, (I personally don't trust these,,, but)

I chose High End Desktop Board
Original Posters exact CPU
4 x sticks DDR3
1 x BluRay
1 x High Speed Sata HDD
1 x GTX 295 Video card
4 x USB devices
2 x 120MM Fans
which = 373W

For me, I still wouldn't put less than a 550W in there,,
but if the calc is right and his PSU is fine,, then it shouldn't have a problem powering his system.

However,,, these are all assumptions.... and the problems talked about here very well could be PSU related.
But they could also be all the other things mentioned as well.
These types of problems are not (unfortunately) a straight forward answer and hopefully we aren't getting off track.

So, I apologize for taking us on a side tangent about PSU's.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
08 Jan 2010   #16
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Does anyone even bother to actually measure the power used by a system at idle or under load?

Whatever became of that radical idea?

Never mind what a calculator says.

Try checking what a few systems actually use.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
08 Jan 2010   #17
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Some calculator do not take into account surge requirements, and if there is any time that a surge is likely, it is during boot.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
08 Jan 2010   #18
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Surprizingly some will end up with a 450w that will take a beating and last while larger supplies while simply quit on you too soon. A great deal has to do with the quality as well as what you see for amp on the rails. You can have a higher wattage supply that gets pulled down due to poor regulation while some lower powered supply holds steady.

When first building this case I went for a supply that was actually a bit more then what was needed for two HDs, a pair of optical drives, and a tuner card as well as the video and sound cards. When expanding by adding in a larger storage drive plus one more for testing 7 plus buying a second lager storage drive you can see 5 over 2 satas made up for that.

The first golden rule with any new build is having a good supply to cover your needs plus! That's the ground work as well as adequate cooling for the intended build. The problem with the combo case/supply included deals is seeing some low powered supply tossed in as one thought for not providing enough power.

Getting back to the subject however the supply is still only one item to consider when seeing problems with a new build. A bad cap on the board or bios programming issue can also cause problems as well as not having set the dram timings correctly for the memory installed.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
08 Jan 2010   #19
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Quote:
ram timings correctly for the memory installed.
Which is something I did not consider but can be highly likely.
I had a system that had problems till I tweaked the voltage on my RAM.
Then it was perfect.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Does anyone even bother to actually measure the power used by a system at idle or under load?

Whatever became of that radical idea?

Never mind what a calculator says.

Try checking what a few systems actually use.

Not really,,, there is almost no point to doing that anymore.
I will say that 1200W PSU in a system with either Crossfire or SLI and a couple HDD's maybe a few GIG's of ram is totally a waste of money and over kill.

But, when building a PC, you really need to know what you are doing and do your homework.

I also say you get what you pay for.

But I think we are getting off track and the OP hasn't even come back to say anything else. Yet.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
08 Jan 2010   #20
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

This is why I suggested a look at the dram timings to see if those are set correctly since memory problems can seem like bad ram when all you might need is a change in settings. Personally to get to 4gb I went with a pair of 2gb dimms rather then populating all four dimm slots with 1gb dimms.

Some boards are known to be hassles when all slots are used. The OP will still have to get to us here to let us know what can be ruled out and what still needs to be looked at.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 New installation Windows 7 keeps hanging




Thread Tools




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
windows 7 installation hanging
I was sent a link to download a copy of windows 7 enterprise to see if we want to go down that route. I built a new system to put it on around an i5 760 CPU. The installation goes fine till the system reboots. The installation hangs with a message "windows is updating the registery" I tried leaving...
Installation & Setup
Windows 7 installation hanging on Intel SSD X25-M
I'm really trying to gauge opinion on this problem. For a few months I was using Windows 7 just fine on an Intel X25-M SSD drive. I had the Intel Rapid Storage Technology software installed, as well as Intel's SSD Toolbox. Then I decided to try the Windows Server 2008 R2 trial. After using...
Installation & Setup
Windows 7 Hanging on Installation
Let me start by listing the specs for this rig: MOTHERBOARD: ASUS P5QL-VM DO CPU: INTEL PENTIUM DUAL CORE E5200 2.5GHZ (not overclocked) MEMORY: 2 GB Kingston KVR800DR PSU: Rosewill RD600N-2DB-SL-BK DVD BURNER: ASUS DRW-2014LT1 (have tried a different dvd burner also)
Installation & Setup
PC hanging up after installation of Windows 7 Ultimate
Hi, I have a problem on hand with Windows 7 Ultimate. After installing the genuine pack of Windows 7 Ultimate my desktop PC performs very badly after sometime. Though the performance is good initially I find my PC slowing down with slow videos and music, hanging up every now and then. Also the...
Software
PC hanging up after installation of Windows
Hi, after installing the genuine pack of Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit version my desktop PC performance slows down after sometime with slow videos and music, hanging up every now and then. Also the CPU and RAM meter given by Windows 7 ultimate shows RAM usage at 70-80% and processor at 100%. PC...
Hardware & Devices
Windows 7 installation hanging..
at completion reboot stage. I successfully set up a dual boot XP Pro / Windows 7 RC 7100 on my new PC.. (Gigabyte P45-UD3R, E6750, 4GB RAM) only after updating the BIOS.. but I wanted to re-install so I formatted both the C: (XP) and D: (W7) using Acronis Disk Director, re-installed XP with no...
Installation & Setup


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:47.
Twitter Facebook Google+ Seven Forums iOS App Seven Forums Android App