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Windows 7: Win 7 64bit - install BSOD framebuf, driving me nuts?

17 Jan 2010   #1
WDruryUK

Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
 
 
Win 7 64bit - install BSOD framebuf, driving me nuts?

Hi,

Hope someone able to help. Built numerous PCs and recently upgrade MCE and Desktop PC with same specs.

Asus M4A785TD-V EVO mobo (on board Ati HD4200)
Kingston 4gb Hyperx DDR 3 1333
Phenom II x2 550 Black Edition

MCE PC is built fine no issues with Win 7 64bit Premium

Desktop PC built with Win 7 64bit Ultimate wont boot after first restart - loops with BSOD framebuf error. Been trying to resolve now for nearly 3 hrs and its driving me nuts!

Only using the on board gfx - their are numerous intergrated gfx bios framebuffer settings but not touched them as didnt with MCE and that PC worked fine.

Currently trying to get to the minidump to zip and post it up.

Any advice or help much appreciated.

Wayne, UK


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17 Jan 2010   #2
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by WDruryUK View Post
Hi,

Hope someone able to help. Built numerous PCs and recently upgrade MCE and Desktop PC with same specs.

Asus M4A785TD-V EVO mobo (on board Ati HD4200)
Kingston 4gb Hyperx DDR 3 1333
Phenom II x2 550 Black Edition

MCE PC is built fine no issues with Win 7 64bit Premium

Desktop PC built with Win 7 64bit Ultimate wont boot after first restart - loops with BSOD framebuf error. Been trying to resolve now for nearly 3 hrs and its driving me nuts!

Only using the on board gfx - their are numerous intergrated gfx bios framebuffer settings but not touched them as didnt with MCE and that PC worked fine.

Currently trying to get to the minidump to zip and post it up.

Any advice or help much appreciated.

Wayne, UK

Wayne Hi and welcome

you can use these to find and upload the DMP file. https://www.sevenforums.com/crash-loc...d-problem.html

thanks

Ken J=+
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17 Jan 2010   #3
WDruryUK

Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
 
 

Thanks Ken.

Got further - tried swapping both memory sticks to the other 2 slots and now the PCs boots into Windows finally.

Now the bad news...before installing all drivers I thought I just put back in my Asus GTX 275 (only difference to my MCE build)

Well PC still boots, but at Win 7 logo it strobes/flickers fast. Then in Windows I notice the clock in system tray is counting the minutes, like they are seconds. When I right clicked to adjust clock, the clock image has the hands just spinning - like I have a super computer or something. Looking at the performance monitor its going like a rocket.

So...about to remove the GTX 275 and continue driver installs to complete build before trying to put GTX 275 card back in.

I think its something to do with the on board ATI gfx interfering with the GTX 275. But doesnt seem to be a way to disable the on board gfx chip

Thanks

Wayne
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17 Jan 2010   #4
ManOwar2

Windows 7 x64
 
 

I suspect drivers 195.62 are causing BSOD on my system. Since I removed them I have no more BSOD. However, this BSOD problem is under investigation in another thread and I provide this information only to help.

This do not mean the driver is not correct for your system. But it cost nothing to try reverting back to more stable nvidia drivers.

If you go on nvidia forum, you will notice lot of people are saying recents nvidia drivers are really unstable with windows 7 32x/64x.
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17 Jan 2010   #5
WDruryUK

Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
 
 

Thanks ManOWar2.

Another update...(damn im tired)...

Ok, removed GTX 275, still wierd logo flickr on boot and also high speed clock/performance monitors in Windows. Reboot and still flickering logo and speedy clock/perf monitor.

Next, remove 1x DDR3 module, reboot and all fine with Windows boot logo animation, looking good. In Windows now at 1920x1080 as would expect for my monitor. Better...installed all mobo drivers and still ok after 3x reboots. Now im getting somewhere.

Ok, time to put back the GTX 275 and boot up...
Oh no... Windows boot logo in flicker mode again and windows now in like a standard vga mode. Ok properties of display adapter states unknown - like im using windows default. Ok this has to be some wierd thing with the onboard gfx messing up my nice Nvidia GTX 275.
Remove card again...reboot and all back to normal again.

Ok...try swapping memory module to other suspect module, but still on using 2gb.
PC boots up fine and no logo flicker on boot, nor any BSOD...
Ok..try both modules again...
PC boots, but with damn Windows logo flicker, then its BSOD. Remove 1x of the modules again and reboot...

PC boots fine again, no logo flicker, windows back in the 1920x1080 mode, and properties for driver shows its using the on board ATI HD4200. Even Clock and Performance monitor is running at normal speeds.

Argh - what the hell is going on I ask my self...still researching and testing....

Tomorrow I will nick the memory from my MCE (bought same time as this kit - 2 lots for these 2 builds) will test in Desktop as the 4gb is working fine in the MCE.

Appreciate any further ideas folks...??

Wayne
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19 Jan 2010   #6
WDruryUK

Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
 
 

todays update after another long night...

I took out the memory fom my MCE and replace both sticks in this new build. Booted up and had the flickering logo/fast clock/fast perm monitor again. This led me to research the fast clock issue as not gfx card related.

Put back memory in my MCE and replaced both sticks in this build with the 2x DDR I bought. While researching the fast clock issue I left PC running a Memtest 86+ (tool here - Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool) to verify the memory sticks.

Uncovered numerous post reagrding the fast clock issue and alot were on Asus 785 chipset mobos. Below are a few of these posts, all had a similar Windows Time Service fix, which didnt work for me. The final solution was a chap "Bonzo???" if I recall whom was advise by Asus to RMA the board due to "bad onboard timer". Therefore I have now requested an RMA number from EBuyer to allow this to happen.

List of Fast Clock Threads found
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http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itprogeneral/thread/ccdc1365-e381-4270-b2e5-c90eb0087eea

http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&id=20091005082214937&board_id=1&model=M4A785TD-V%20EVO&page=1&count=27

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7repair/thread/3bca34bb-d006-4ddb-94aa-5d99c64d28a1

http://www.win7heads.com/repair-recovery/25465-windows-7-system-clock-running-60-times-too-fast.html


MemTest 86+ complete with no errors at all so this also confirm the issue can only be the Mobo or the CPU. As I mention above and the above threads the issue can only be the mobo. Now to get on with gettting an RMA replacement.

Will update again once I get by replacement and build to confirm this was the cause.

Thanks

Wayne
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21 Feb 2010   #7
WDruryUK

Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
 
 

Confirmed motherboard was the cause!
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27 Feb 2010   #8
ManOwar2

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Great if you could solve the problem.
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