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Windows 7: How to repair windows 7?

29 Jan 2010   #11
iseeuu

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hasse View Post
But it keeps telling that it cannot repair...
Hello Hasse;

It seems you blame the problem on a MS update. It might be something else. I have also seen this automatic repair be unable to fix the problem. In my case the cause was a hard drive going bad ... but just a little at a time. You can check this, either confirm or eliminate this as a possibility, by going to the hard drive manufacturer's web site and downloading their hard drive utility. You burn it as a bootable disk, boot to it and allow it to check your hard drive. It may even fix some problems for you.

Hope this is helpful?
Robert


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29 Jan 2010   #12
Pauly

Win7 Ultimate X64
 
 

You said in your first post you had a BSOD can you post the dump file may give us a bit more info of an error, check out this link if you dont know how to find and upload it https://www.sevenforums.com/crash-loc...d-problem.html
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29 Jan 2010   #13
Hasse

Windows 7
 
 

thanks for the quick responses but so far no success here. There is no minidump folder in /windows/ so no information there. Also the BSOD happened during shutdown and waiting for the updates to be installed.

I installed windows 7 on a new harddisk. It's about one month old now. So I do not expect a harddisk problem. Checkdsk did not report failures either. At this moment Seatools is checking the drive.... the quick test did not show failures, so now the long test is running...

update: the long test does turn off the computer.... 3 times now... Probably something with the Seatools software.
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29 Jan 2010   #14
iseeuu

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hasse View Post
thanks for the quick responses but so far no success here. There is no minidump folder in /windows/ so no information there. Also the BSOD happened during shutdown and waiting for the updates to be installed.

I installed windows 7 on a new harddisk. It's about one month old now. So I do not expect a harddisk problem. Checkdsk did not report failures either. At this moment Seatools is checking the drive.... the quick test did not show failures, so now the long test is running...

update: the long test does turn off the computer.... 3 times now... Probably something with the Seatools software.
Yes I agree, the hard drive is a long shot. But new hard drives can fail to. All of the steps you reported, auto repair, restore point, last known good configuration, etc should have restored you system ... but they didn't. You reported: "Problem Signature 07: CorruptRegistry". A defect on the hard drive platter can corrupt the data stored there and no amount of recopying the data to that spot will fix the defect. Therefore my suggestion to have the drive utility run to either fix the defective sector, declare the drive failing, or verify there is no issue with the drive.

The long test turns off the computer? That doesn't sound good. Is the hard drive overheating?
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29 Jan 2010   #15
Hasse

Windows 7
 
 

One of the things I tried is copying the registry files and deleting them. This al was without problems. Chkdsk did not give errors too as did the short test from seatools. The long test turns off the computer.... I agree that from a distance this may look like a hint but I believe it is a failure from seagte pgrogrammers....

Lets digg a bit deeper in this harddisk thing. I almost never restart my computer but hybernate or standby the system. The reason for rebooting was because of the update but even more because of its slowness. The harddisk was active like crazy and switching betweens apps was terrible. Memory usage was not over the physical amount but is was pretty active. But for me its common to have about 30 chrome windows open and sevceral other apps running. Harddisk temperature wasnot a problem, around 46 degress celcius (not even halfway waterboiling point).

Also processor temperatures is a problem with my Hewlett Packard NC8430 notebook. Since I am running windows 7 it seems to become pretty hot. Especially when flash is active on some website. 100 degress celcius (waterboilingpoint) is seen often. Only for CPU, not for harddisk. I dont think its related.

The last hours system restore comes up with a new failure ox8000ffff but thats not something that helps me. Also when running repair from DVD it seems to be more positive then when running it from the installed system. When running from DVD it tells me the computer was repaired in stead of telling me it could not repair it. But still the same results....

Its driving me crazy!!

update: I hope the extra information in this post does not deflect the discussion away from the real problem.
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29 Jan 2010   #16
iseeuu

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hasse View Post
One of the things I tried is copying the registry files and deleting them. This al was without problems. Chkdsk did not give errors too as did the short test from seatools. The long test turns off the computer.... I agree that from a distance this may look like a hint but I believe it is a failure from seagte pgrogrammers....

Lets digg a bit deeper in this harddisk thing. I almost never restart my computer but hybernate or standby the system. The reason for rebooting was because of the update but even more because of its slowness. The harddisk was active like crazy and switching betweens apps was terrible. Memory usage was not over the physical amount but is was pretty active. But for me its common to have about 30 chrome windows open and sevceral other apps running. Harddisk temperature wasnot a problem, around 46 degress celcius (not even halfway waterboiling point).

Also processor temperatures is a problem with my Hewlett Packard NC8430 notebook. Since I am running windows 7 it seems to become pretty hot. Especially when flash is active on some website. 100 degress celcius (waterboilingpoint) is seen often. Only for CPU, not for harddisk. I dont think its related.

The last hours system restore comes up with a new failure ox8000ffff but thats not something that helps me. Also when running repair from DVD it seems to be more positive then when running it from the installed system. When running from DVD it tells me the computer was repaired in stead of telling me it could not repair it. But still the same results....

Its driving me crazy!!

update: I hope the extra information in this post does not deflect the discussion away from the real problem.
The extra information is very helpful! The reason I asked about heat is that the hard drive test is intensive and adds heat to any system. So the heat might cause the computer to shutdown before the long test can finish.

If the hard drive tests out OK, then we can concentrate on why the data was corrupted from a software perspective, and why you can not successfully restore Windows.
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29 Jan 2010   #17
Hasse

Windows 7
 
 

I have booted my UBCD disk and running several disk test utilities. So far no problems found.

update: 2:30 AM here now. Still no things found that point to a bad harddrive. Hopefully tomorrow when I wake up, there are some great ideas to test in this threat.
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29 Jan 2010   #18
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Hasse, that is a frustrating problem indeed!

Lets try something, as I am not so sure this is caused by a hardware issue.

Download and burn Ubuntu to a CD, and boot into it. If you can get to its loading screen, chose the LiveCD option, simply to boot from the CD. This will confirm if your hardware works correctly. If this is so, then I suspect the problem lies in your MBR.

If this seems to be the case, you can overwrite and repair the MBR through the Ubuntu Live CD. However, this may cause damage to the MBR, so should be used with caution. However, I think at this point, this is the best option to fix the MBR. Try following this tutorial to do so: How to fix your Windows MBR with an Ubuntu liveCD|ArsGeek

Hope this helps!

~Lordbob
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30 Jan 2010   #19
Hasse

Windows 7
 
 

I've boooted UBCD and Knoppix already. I'm downloading Ubuntu and try that to. So far no hardware issues found but Im not fully convinced yet.

I use to repair all computers in the street I live and also for friends and family. But thats most of the time removing virussen and spyware on an XP machine. I always get the XP system repaired with almost never losing the data. But this windows 7 thing is new for me (I skipped Vista after trying for 1 day). I really hate the fact that I cannot just run setup over the existing installation, fixing all thats broken, keeping everything installed...

One funny thing I noticed is that it looks to me that Windows 7 installation made an extra partition. Some boot stuf on C and windows on D right now. When it was running fine, I never saw this boot partition and windows was on C. I assume this is normal, but maybe it's not?? Please confirm that this is normal or that its a major hint for some MBR related problem.

Regarding to fix for MBR with Ubuntu, Im little worried about the date of the link. It's a pre-windows 7 artikel and I'm not sure what is changed for windows 7 regarding MBR. For sure booting has changed in windows 7...I'll also check with google for MBR related issues on WIndows 7.

Thanks so far.

Edit: I ran "bootsect /nt60 c: /force" to fix MBR on windows 7 but did not help. MBR problems are usually something like "cannot find OS" failures. It's not like this. My machines boots but gets into the startup repair screens.
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30 Jan 2010   #20
Hasse

Windows 7
 
 

Small update:
I tried running memtest from the repair window and memtest also turns off my computer, just like seatools.... I did install a 2nd memory module some time ago. Also the temnperature of my notebook is getting very high on windows 7 so I am now switching memory modules. And see what it brings.

Update: with either of the two modules it turns off during memtest..... I consider 2 broken modules at the same time highly unlikely. Also memory usage of windows 7 was close to 2GB before I planned to shut down (2GB is the total memory I have). and no problems than.

Update2: also memtest86 causes the notebook to turn off. Both moduels tested separately. Same results. Still I do not believe both modules to be broken. Wondering if some memory controlling thing on the mainboard might have been overheated? Or just a strange hardware architecture (hp notebook) that is not compatible with these old DOS tools?

Update3: Within the BIOS setup I found also a test program for memory. This one runs for several minutes and all test do PASS without a problem. I ran it twice.

Update4: I installed windows 7 on a brand new harddisk and I still had the harddisk with XP laying around. So Im now running the system on XP and will probaly note it soon when there is a hardware issue. So far its running fine. I installed seatools for windows and hooked up the windows 7 harddrive as an external drive. Seatools for windows is now testing this windows 7 harddisk for problems. So far nothing found. (when powermanagement turned off the screen, it scared the hell out of me... but still all okay)................after more then 2 hours no problems found on the harddrive and xp still running okay.

conclusions so far:
- Harddisk is 99% sure okay
- Memory 80% sure no problem.

In my opinion at this moment still a software problem and not a hardware problem.
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