BSODs point to bad RAM, RAM tests good...


  1. Posts : 31
    Win 7 Ultimate x86
       #1

    BSODs point to bad RAM, RAM tests good...


    I recently built a new rig and all was well until 2 days ago, I was playing a game and randomly got a bsod. Since the game warns me it has compatibility issues I thought nothing of it. Then another game gave me a different BSOD. Now I can't even finish a virus scan without it BSODing on me... (even in safe mode) I did my research and all of em pointed to bad RAM except 1 (bad page in non-paged area I believe it was) so I ran both windows diagnostics RAM tests and MemTEST 86+ over quite a few passes (8 for windows, 2 for memtest) and they all came up clean... I am at a loss and need help! I just tried to run the SF info thing for the dump info twice, the first time it bsoded while refreshing the system info the 2nd time I think it finished but it never said press any key to continue... I'm uploading what is in the file...
    Please help! If it is infact a hardware issue I do not have too long before I can't send parts back to the site I ordered from... (newegg)

    EDIT: It seems the zip file is 79Mb! It's not gonna let me upload... But amazingly the computer let me up it to mediafire without bsoding so I will post the link
    Seven Forums.zip
    I've fully updated my system specs so every possible detail about this build is in there...
    Last edited by RolandHazoto; 07 Mar 2010 at 01:25. Reason: System spec update
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  2. Posts : 5,705
    Win7 x64 + x86
       #2

    FYI - most BSOD errors point to memory (not to RAM) - because it's the improper accessing of memory that causes most of the BSOD problems with drivers.

    Memory comprises -
    - RAM
    - pagefile
    - other memory (video, CPU, mobo most commonly)
    - virtual memory (which resides in RAM or pagefile)

    5 memory dumps were uploaded, 1 was corrupted and unusable
    All were dated 06 Mar 10

    The Windows Debugging Tools aren't able to access symbols for your operating system files (in particular NTOSKRNL.EXE / NTKRNLMP.EXE / NTKRNLPA.EXE / NTKRPAMP.EXE) from the Microsoft Symbol Server - so that makes debugging them difficult if not impossible.

    Please do the following:
    - activate/validate the Windows installation at Genuine Microsoft Software
    - run sfc.exe /scannow to replace any problem files
    - If that doesn't fix it, then wipe the hard drive and reinstall Windows
    - don't use "leaked"/torrent builds

    Summary of the BSOD's:
    Code:
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntkrnlpa.exe
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntkrnlpa.exe
    Built by: 7600.16481.x86fre.win7_gdr.091207-1941
    Debug session time: Sat Mar  6 14:02:51.654 2010 (GMT-5)
    System Uptime: 0 days 0:13:53.279
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntkrnlpa.exe
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntkrnlpa.exe
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntkrnlpa.exe
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntkrnlpa.exe
    Built by: 7600.16481.x86fre.win7_gdr.091207-1941
    Debug session time: Sat Mar  6 23:11:48.581 2010 (GMT-5)
    System Uptime: 0 days 0:00:28.142
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntkrnlpa.exe
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntkrnlpa.exe
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntkrnlpa.exe
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntkrnlpa.exe
    Built by: 7600.16481.x86fre.win7_gdr.091207-1941
    Debug session time: Sat Mar  6 23:21:56.447 2010 (GMT-5)
    System Uptime: 0 days 0:09:00.008
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntkrnlpa.exe
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntkrnlpa.exe
    BugCheck 1000008E, {c0000005, 83235b71, 8db1336c, 0}
    Probably caused by : cng.sys ( cng!ReadExternalEntropyIntoPool+1a6 )
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntkrnlpa.exe
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntkrnlpa.exe
    Built by: 7600.16481.x86fre.win7_gdr.091207-1941
    Debug session time: Sat Mar  6 05:39:36.291 2010 (GMT-5)
    System Uptime: 0 days 0:27:04.852
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntkrnlpa.exe
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntkrnlpa.exe
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for bdfsfltr.sys
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for bdfsfltr.sys
    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID:  VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT
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  3. Posts : 31
    Win 7 Ultimate x86
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Ok, I've deleted the page file in previous attempts to fix it, just to put it out there, this is a legitimiate copy, I purchased it through MS Expertzone. Right before I posted I tried moving my RAM to new slots and the only BSODs I've seen since are IRQL_NOT_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL but now my wireless adpater refuses to work on that computer so I am typing this from an old laptop I have hooked up to the TV
    And also I am activated and valid.
    I'll try the sfc.exe thing now.. I'll post back here shortly with results and hopefully I can get this network adapter working on it again...
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  4. Posts : 12
    Win7 64bit / WinXP 64bit
       #4

    MemTest 86+ ran 12hours w/o errors for me too... and in the end it did turn out to be the RAM!
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  5. Gw2
    Posts : 91
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #5

    lenlennart said:
    MemTest 86+ ran 12hours w/o errors for me too... and in the end it did turn out to be the RAM!
    thats what im figuring is going to happen to me.
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  6. Posts : 31
    Win 7 Ultimate x86
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Some odd stuff happened... I backed all the important stuff up (took about 4 hours or so) and it didn't BSOD... So I was debating on whether or not I needed to format (even the my USB wi-fi adapter remained unusable) but then I realized the event viewer service refused to start anymore...
    So, I have formatted and re-installed, I'm restoring my documents, music, etc. awhile and slowly reinstalling drivers...
    by the way sfc.exe /scannow came up clean...
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  7. Posts : 31
    Win 7 Ultimate x86
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Ok, they are back after the format... Just started a few minutes ago and I've gotten 3
    reference_by_pointer
    memory_management
    IRQL_NOT_LESS_THAN_OR_EQUAL
    Again the zip is too big (but only 56Mb this time) so again I'm upping to mediafire, please help on this one!
    Seven Forums post-format.zip
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