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Windows 7: I cleared MBR by accident on raid0. How to save data?

14 May 2010   #11
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I use Macrium imaging to backup both my system and my data partitions. Given that you have apparently a lot more data than I have, you may have to modify the approach somehow. But the main thing is that I provide for an image trail all the way back to the initial installation and I image daily. Prerequisite with my approach is that you have enough disk space to hold one weeks worth of backups plus the weekly and monthly copies. The space requirements can be reduced if you use incrementals, but for that you need Macrium Pro or an equivalent other imaging program.
The backup time is not so important because the imaging can run in the background and does not keep me from doing other tasks. Here are the details:

I make a daily image of my system and data partitions at boot-up. I have set Macrium to do that automatically. It takes only 9 minutes from my SSD to the internal HDD. Every Sunday, I copy the Sunday image to an on-line external disk into a "weekly folder". Every first of the month I also copy the last image to an external disk "monthly folder" that usually stays off-line. That way I have a whole history all the way back to the initial installation.
In addition I have two 16GB sticks to which I copy my data every 3 months and put it into my bank safe. 3 months later I retrieve the first stick and deposit the latest data copy on the second stick, and so on.



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14 May 2010   #12
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Wow, extremely elaborate setup you have there, whs...
I don't have that extreme backup, my work data (all 5 years of them) fits in a DVD. So, every month or so I'd burn one DVD. But next to that, I have a SAN, 3x 1TB disks, 2 run as RAID 1, 1 stand by as Hot spare. I set smartd to email me whenever it found anything weird with any of the disks. Those disks are then, every few weeks synchronized to another SAN box using Rsync, incremental backup copy... I'm thinking of buying an IBM DS 3300 Storage system, it'd be much simpler to maintain, and a lot more reliable hardware wise...

zzz2496
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14 May 2010   #13
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Well, it may sound elaborate. But from an operational standpoint it is the simplest solution. My backups are all scheduled automatically and all I need to remember is to turn on the external disk for the monthly backup. Everything else runs without my intervention - except the USBs.
I have seen a lot more subtle approaches with sync, differentials and alike. But I like things to be simple and transparent so that I know at every step of the way where I am and what I have got. It may take a bit more disk space, but so what.
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14 May 2010   #14
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

We can never have enough disk space, huh...?
Btw, where's the OP?

zzz2496
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15 May 2010   #15
surfasb

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zzz2496 View Post
Wow, extremely elaborate setup you have there, whs...
I don't have that extreme backup, my work data (all 5 years of them) fits in a DVD. So, every month or so I'd burn one DVD. But next to that, I have a SAN, 3x 1TB disks, 2 run as RAID 1, 1 stand by as Hot spare. I set smartd to email me whenever it found anything weird with any of the disks. Those disks are then, every few weeks synchronized to another SAN box using Rsync, incremental backup copy... I'm thinking of buying an IBM DS 3300 Storage system, it'd be much simpler to maintain, and a lot more reliable hardware wise...

zzz2496
Yeah, work data is invaluable. Multiple backups is cheap compared to what happens when a disaster hits. I think of it like this. If I charge $100 an hour for my work, then an extra HD is a drop in the bucket compared to what happens if I happen to lose several days of work due to a disaster.
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15 May 2010   #16
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by surfasb View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zzz2496 View Post
Wow, extremely elaborate setup you have there, whs...
I don't have that extreme backup, my work data (all 5 years of them) fits in a DVD. So, every month or so I'd burn one DVD. But next to that, I have a SAN, 3x 1TB disks, 2 run as RAID 1, 1 stand by as Hot spare. I set smartd to email me whenever it found anything weird with any of the disks. Those disks are then, every few weeks synchronized to another SAN box using Rsync, incremental backup copy... I'm thinking of buying an IBM DS 3300 Storage system, it'd be much simpler to maintain, and a lot more reliable hardware wise...

zzz2496
Yeah, work data is invaluable. Multiple backups is cheap compared to what happens when a disaster hits. I think of it like this. If I charge $100 an hour for my work, then an extra HD is a drop in the bucket compared to what happens if I happen to lose several days of work due to a disaster.
Very true indeed... OP still MIA...

zzz2496
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15 May 2010   #17
Dushmanius

Windows 7
 
 

OP is back from Action. I was feeling different backup solutions. : )

I tried mozy.com but it is crappy slow. I backed up 1GB of data and then tried to download that. First I waited for 6 hours for them to prepare my backup (?) then when download started it was capped at 90 KB/s. I guess they don't want to be rapidshare...

Carbonite was next but those sneaky *******s have upload limit at 300 KB/s. They actually want you to upload your things to their servers forever.

Then I though megaupload was a good deal. 200 greens and you get lifetime membership with unlimited downloads and uploads and all that... Speed was superb! But you can make folders only in root directory (!?). That's right. You can have unlimited folders in root but no where else. Which basically means that all my photoshop brushes, gradients, patterns and styles would be in the same folder. That is a huge mess so I canceled my premium right away.

Damn it. I can't seem to find good online backup solution.
At the moment I'm backed up only with WD anytime backup (not bad software but far from good) that runs on my MyBook external 500GB drive.

@surfasb
that was best comparison yet. : )
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15 May 2010   #18
not so gray matter

W7 Ult. x64 | OS X
 
 

I suggest that if you're going to use an online backup solution you look for companies that actually do backup solution and not companies that are just providing disk space for downloading (i.e. Rapidshare, Megaupload). Reliability on those sites isn't even close to good because most of the files uploaded are illegal and get deleted quickly.

Here's what I suggest... It's simple and should work out just fine for ya.

Make one Macrium Free backup of your system partition after you've installed your programs, fixed your settings and all of that. This should be done right after an installation, that way there's nothing erroneous on the disk. Now copy this backup and put it in a few places (dvd/usb/etc). This part of the backup can just sit and collect dust as you don't need it unless you're updating it with a new configuration or using it.

The next part of the backup is to purchase a hard drive that's large enough to store all of your data. If this cannot be done, purchase multiple hard drives. This drives should be independent of your system drive and hopefully external as well. Store all of your data on these drive(s). Now purchase another set of these drive(s) so that you have 2 sets of the same amount of space. Now just use backup software to backup drive(s) 1 on drive(s) 2 once a day or week or month. Now you've got two copies of your data, you latest stuff which is stored on a set of external hard drives and a backup set which is kept disconnected.

The last thing to do is to create a usb stick or hard drive with your most important files (setup files you cannot live without, photoshop filters, etc etc). This is just incase of the worst case scenario where all of your data is ruined. Keep this in a safe place.

Now if you want to reformat/start fresh all you need to do is use the backup software to load your system image which will have all of your favorite programs and preferences pre configured and installed.

Anyway, if you still want to try online backups, here are some options:

https://www.jungledisk.com/
http://www.sosonlinebackup.com/
http://www.idrive.com/
https://www.sugarsync.com/
http://www.ibackup.com/
http://www.elephantdrive.com/

If you're looking for a solution that allows you to upload multiple gigs of data and then download all of that data in an instant, you might need a file storage solution like rapidshare and megaupload, here are some alternatives.

http://www.filefactory.com
http://www.**************/
http://www.netload.in
http://www.hotfile.com
http://www.ul.to
http://www.depositfiles.com
http://www.storage.to
http://www.mangoshare.com
http://www.megashares.com
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15 May 2010   #19
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Make 2 SAN servers (use Atom, it's more than capable) comprised or 3 HDD each (totaling 6 for 2 systems), setup as such: 2 RAID 1, 1 as Hot spare. Backup each day, incrementally on the first SAN, the second SAN will backup the first SAN once a week. Then, every month, backup the data from the second SAN to a set of DVDs. All this only for your Work data, you can do a system image backup too if you want, SANs usually can serve a SMB/FTP share, so you can almost backup anything to it. If you prefer enterprise (but on the cheaper side), I suggest you try IBM DS3000 series, somewhat cheap, dual controller capable, very fast, and it's supported by IBM...

zzz2496
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15 May 2010   #20
Dushmanius

Windows 7
 
 

@notsograymatter
Some good ideas. I was thinking more along the lines of buying additional Hard drive(s) and setting them in raid 1 setting. Or just buying one big 2 TB (or 2 2TB) and using some backup software to backup files every night. I don't think that I need to have 2 sets of backup. I'm just thinking along the lines of very slim chance that something will happen to HDD anyway and there is very very very slim chance that something happens both to HDD and Backup at the same time. Granted there could be fire or earthquake or huricane (damn Florida weather) but that's why I would like online backup too.

I am looking at the solutions to upload TB of data that's why online backup providers are not the best solution (they don't like users like me). That's why I was thinking of filesharing services. I don't think that reliability would be any problem because I don't intend to share any of these files.

Bunch of these services have some catches.
Code:
http://www.netload.in
- will keep your files for only 30 days.
Code:
http://www.hotfile.com
- will keep your files for only 90 days.
Code:
http://www.ul.to
- does not have ANY info on their service
Code:
http://www.depositfiles.com
- will keep your files for only 90 days.
Code:
http://www.mangoshare.com
- no tool for upload
Code:
http://www.megashares.com
- plain bad
Code:
http://www.***************
- will keep your files for only 90 days.
Code:
http://www.**************
- has awful bug ridden service without any upload tool (except browser flash)

Megaupload was perfect except for the fact that you can't make subfolders.

I have (or had) premium memberships on most of these filesharing services and they just suck.

Code:
http://www.elephantdrive.com
- same as carbonite, same as mozy. You can use it only on one PC. If you want to take some stuff from the backup you will have to disassociate old PC from the backup which makes your whole backup deleted after 30 days. No you can't stop the process.
Code:
http://www.ibackup.com/
- 10GB of backup. Really?
Code:
https://www.sugarsync.com/
- 30 GB of backup.
Code:
http://www.idrive.com/
- 150 GB of backup.
Code:
http://www.sosonlinebackup.com
- 15 GB of backup. Really?
Code:
https://www.jungledisk.com/
- Unlimited storage at 15 per GB. Buying the drives would be much cheaper.

I am beginning to think that megaupload would be the best. I can just name my folders Music-ACDC, Music-CafeDelMar, Music-Enigma, Photoshop-Brushes, Photoshop-Gradinets. Photoshop-Styles...

Though you have intrigued me with that Macrium system image solution. I had Norton ghost do that for me back in the days but they do not support Windows7 (or Vista for that matter) anymore. So how does that work? It will make image of my windows, programs, drivers, desktop, application files, program files... and I can just restore whole system from that image if something happens?


@zzz2496
I was thinking about SAN (one though, not 2 :P) but I am not ready to fork 500 bucks just yet.
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