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Windows 7: "Access denied" to minidump files

20 May 2010   #21
Willyw

Windows 7 x64
 
 

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I thought you just stated the method you used resulted in no access?
I did.
So... I need some help in figuring out what is wrong. That's what I'm asking for.
I'm not asking for an alternate method.




Obviously. But... I haven't said that I was doing it repeatedly.

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The shortcut method is very safe in that you are not messing with permissions, which, if you do not know what your are doing, can necessitate a repair install.

So, if what you are doing is not working, try an approved method that is perfectly safe. If you choose not to follow advice, we cannot assist you. We would not suggest something that could harm your system.
Again, I'm not asking for a work-around.
I'm explaining what I did. If it didn't work, then something is wrong, and I need some help from those that know Windows 7, in figuring it out.


Thanks
I would say you should pick which is the more important of your dilemma's, if it's the knowledge of why, then you have been given a suggestion for that.

If it is how to fix your access denied problem, you have been given a suggestion for that as well.

I've been given a work around.
I've been told to read a book.

No one has been over the process of taking ownership of a file, with the capabilities built right into Windows Seven with me.
Nor, has anyone addressed why, after taking ownership of a file, I am still getting "Access denied" to the file.


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Pick the one you want most and let us know your results, but if you had just tried the original take ownership suggestion, you would be much farther along than you are now.



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20 May 2010   #22
Tews

64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Here ... first hit in google..
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20 May 2010   #23
derekimo

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 10 Pro x64
 
 

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Here ... first hit in google..

Google, interesting concept there.
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20 May 2010   #24
Willyw

Windows 7 x64
 
 

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Here ... first hit in google..
Yes. That is what I did.

Still get 'Access denied' though.
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20 May 2010   #25
Willyw

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by derekimo View Post
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Here ... first hit in google..

Google, interesting concept there.
And.... since what I found that way didn't get results, I thought I'd come to a forum and inquire about what could be wrong.
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20 May 2010   #26
Capt.Jack Sparrow

Windows 7 Ultimate - 64-bit | Windows 8 Pro - 64-bit
 
 

To enhance security Microsoft has even denied Administrators access to some folders. The way to fix this error is to give yourself permission to access the file or folder and if that fails To Login as Build-in administrator that would give you full administrator rights. Also sometime Turning off UAC also do the trick. If your looking for the reason you could either get Windows Internals: Windows Internals Book that would explain the working of operating System and *WHY* are you getting the error message.

If our answers didn't satify then i guess the best thing to do would be speak to Microsoft

Hope this helps,
Captain
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20 May 2010   #27
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

I will try to make a brief explanation of the ownership issue. Windows 7, unlike XP and even Vista, has a lot of security built in to the operating system.

For one, the admin account in Win 7, even the hidden admin account, is not a wide open, total control account that XP had. This was done on purpose. The MS programmers realized that most users run in the admin account all the time so they deliberately limited admin rights.

You can do everything as an admin in Win 7 that you could as an admin in XP - if you know how. This requires an in depth understanding of Win 7 that one did not need in XP. Some examples of this are ownership of files and files that you cannot access even if you take ownership which was done through permissions. This is done to protect the system. This is the way Win 7 designed.

There is no "built in" take ownership in Win 7 and the reason is to keep a user from taking ownership of vital system files. Anything you do to take ownership is a work around of some sort. You can do it by advanced changing permissions; but if you do not know what you are doing, you don't want to mess with permissions.

Accept that Win 7 is designed to keep you from messing with the system unless you are knowledgeable enough to understand how to work around things. The work around to take ownership that is safe and does not make your system vulnerable is the take ownership shortcut designed by Brink. He has the knowledge of Win 7 to come up with this simple, safe work around that does not leave your system vulnerable nor unstable. It is easy, it is safe, and it works.

I was serious when I suggested that you purchase a good Win 7 manual from Amazon if you want to understand how Win 7 is designed and operates.
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20 May 2010   #28
Willyw

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Capt.Jack Sparrow View Post
To enhance security Microsoft has even denied Administrators access to some folders. The way to fix this error is to give yourself permission to access the file or folder


With a check on 'Full Control' in the 'Allow' column? It is there.

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and if that fails To Login as Build-in administrator
At that link, it says it only applies to Professional, Ultimate, and Enterprise editions.
I have Home Premium.

Thanks


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That would give you full administrator rights. Also sometime Turning off UAC also do the trick. If your looking for the reason you could either get Windows Internals: Windows Internals Book that would explain the working of operating System and *WHY* are you getting the error message.
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If our answers didn't satify then i guess the best thing to do would be speak to Microsoft
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Hope this helps,
Captain
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20 May 2010   #29
derekimo

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 10 Pro x64
 
 

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At that link, it says it only applies to Professional, Ultimate, and Enterprise editions.
I have Home Premium.
Exactly why filling out your system specs helps to give you better information.

https://www.sevenforums.com/general-d...tml#post256049
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20 May 2010   #30
Capt.Jack Sparrow

Windows 7 Ultimate - 64-bit | Windows 8 Pro - 64-bit
 
 

To change ownership, right-click any file or folder, select Properties, and go to Security tab. Now click the Advanced button(shown in the screenshot below).


Next, you need to go to Owner tab and hit the Edit button. Then in the new dialog window choose the new owner and then click OK.




Regarding the Build in administrator i would works on Home Edition as well just try the Option 2.
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Option Two
Through a Elevated Command Prompt


NOTE: This option can be used in all editions of Windows 7.
1. Open a elevated command prompt.

2. To Enable the Hidden Built-In Administrator Account -
A) In the elevated command prompt, type
net user administrator /active:yes and press Enter. (See screenshot below)

B) Go to step 4.
3. To Disable the Hidden Built-In Administrator Account -
A) In the elevated command prompt, type
net user administrator /active:no and press Enter. (See screenshot below)


4. Close the elevated command prompt.

5. Log off, and you will now see the built-in Administrator account log on icon added (enabled) or removed (disabled) from the log on screen. (See screeenshot below)
NOTE: Click on the Administrator icon to log on to the built-in Administrator account.




Hope this helps,
Captain
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