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Windows 7: Windows 7 x64 vs Windows 7 x86 (Fight)

02 Aug 2009   #91
fakeasdf

Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04
 
 

Ditto... The only thing that might possibly differ would be if some driver had an issue in either version versus the other. Most drivers won't be seeing issues such as these, seeing as a lot of companies aren't really writing 64 bit drivers, but writing 64 bit wrapper classes around the 32 bit drivers, or compiling the exact same code for 64 bit. It's kind of hard to screw up a wrapper class :P So although there is some possibility of something screwing up in both of these places, it's becoming more unlikely, especially with the power of compilers and dev environments. They are extremely good at pointing out possible issues that could arise between x86 and x64.
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02 Aug 2009   #92
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sven View Post
I'm running win7 x64, and I'm very happy with it. I, on the other hand, have a friend with Core i7, 3Gb ram, 2x ATI 4870 in crossfire, and he won't run x64, because he can't get Windows Mail to work on x64. I have showed him the guide in this forum, and he tried a hole night, but without succes.
I don't know Windows mail myself, but what is the difference between Windows Mail (Vista) and Windows Live mail (as I use in Windows 7)?

Windows Mail is a CLIENT application provided with Vista intended as a replacement for Outlook Express. Primarily serves as a POP client.

Windows Live Mail is the mail component of the Windows Live suite and provides a IMAP compliant service as well as the client component for desktops, etc. Windows Live Mail allows for a users mail, contacts and calendars to be accessed and synchronized from the desktop client, any pc with Internet access and mobile devices such as Blackberrys. It is intended as the replacement for WINDOWS MAIL. Outlook 2003 and 2007 users can integrate Windows Live Mail access using the Outlook Connector. It allows the the familiar Outlook features set with Live Mail's remote access and synchronization.

There are a plethora of MS publications and help with Windows Live Mail. Use Google for your reading pleasure.

I will be switching all OE users directly to Windows Live Mail. The "Windows Mail" is nothing more that OE with a different name, IMO.

P.S. MS REALLY introduced confusion with the names "Windows Mail" and "Windows Live Mail". The latter is now referred to as "Windows Live Hotmail" because a common question was "What about my Hotmail?". It seems the original Hotmail has been morphed into Windows Live Hotmail.

Please don't start a flame over which came first.... chicken or egg. I eat both anyway.
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02 Aug 2009   #93
fakeasdf

Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04
 
 

it was the egg...
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02 Aug 2009   #94
dgwin7

Windows 7 64bit Ultimate
 
 

I say x64 is the future of today...

Pro
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Can address more than 4GB ram.

Required digitally signature drivers mean more stable than 32bit.

Con
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32 bit is outdated.

32 bit can't see more than 4GB no matter what.

Plenty 64 bit stuff link at 64bit and x64 - Home.

What are you waiting for x64 ? x64 is now growing strong and postive future.

Just my 2 cents.

dg
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02 Aug 2009   #95
fakeasdf

Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04
 
 

Reminds me of Southpark... Terrible show, but the evolution episode is super funny...

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dgwin7 View Post
I say x64 is the future of today...

Pro
===

Can address more than 4GB ram.

Required digitally signature drivers mean more stable than 32bit.

Con
===

32 bit is outdated.

32 bit can't see more than 4GB no matter what.

Plenty 64 bit stuff link at 64bit and x64 - Home.

What are you waiting for x64 ? x64 is now growing strong and postive future.

Just my 2 cents.

dg
I like the "future of today" part
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02 Aug 2009   #96
fakeasdf

Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Antman View Post
"32 bit is outdated" - the past of tomorrow
The sad thing is that statement is true.. :P
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02 Aug 2009   #97
fakeasdf

Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04
 
 

But it probably could be shifted to a 64 bit world. In fact, you could probably create yet another layer of abstraction and put yourself into a 64 bit world with continued access to a 32 bit world (if needed) - where your source of income derived from. But, I really don't know what your job is... So, I have no idea:P

All problems in computer science can be solved by another level of indirection. - David Wheeler

Most people will state the quote like so

All problems in computer science can be solved by another level of abstraction.

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02 Aug 2009   #98
DJG

 

All problems in Computer Science can be attributed to one or another layer of Abstracted Indirection ...

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Antman View Post
Not really. It's the difference between pure science and applied science. Almost all of my income is derived from the "32-bit world".

You would not deprive my children of food and clothes, would you?
Most of my income was derived from a 2-bit world ... when I had one .
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02 Aug 2009   #99
lastelement0

Windows 7 (7100)
 
 

This may be off topic, but i couldnt create a new thread.

I was just browsing newegg.com and there appears to be a pretty good deal out there. If you purchase a copy of Windows Vista, you are eligible for a free copy of Windows 7. If its the retail disk or upgrade disk i do not know but if it's the retail disk, you can save $130 on the ultimate version. if its the upgrade its still 30 bucks cheaper than getting the Upgrade disk by itself.


here's the link.

Newegg.com - Buy Windows Vista Now and Upgrade to Windows 7 for Free Later
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03 Aug 2009   #100
bobtran

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
X64 and no going back

I waited for SP1 before upgrading to Vista and had to make the x86 vs x64 decision before purchasing as I was getting an OEM version. I ultimately decided to get the x64 version and I have not been sorry. There were some driver issues but only because of the drivers included in the OEM DVD. I found that when a driver was incompatible that I was prompted by Vista to get the updated x64 driver and have not found any applications that I couldn't get working on the x64 version. My games have performed very well although I did have an issue with "Crysis" at first. Finally figured out to create a shortcup to the x64 executable in the game folder and set it to run as admin. This stopped the error and allowed me to play my "Crysis" game. Haven't found any other issues since I upgraded.

When I decided to test Win7 I of course installed the x64 version and have not experienced a single driver issue. I have been using my Win7 RC as my primary OS since and have been extremely pleased with the quality of the build.

I am recommending the x64 version to everyone that I help/support here which is quite a few people and everyone who has purchased x64 machines has been more that pleased with the choice.

IMHO Win7 x64 is everything that we were lead to believe Vista would be and more. Even machines with only 2gb ram seem to run better on x64 than x86. I will definitely be upgrading all my machines that are capable to Win7 x64 as soon as it becomes available which for an old IT Professional like me is saying alot because the "Bleeding edge" is simply not an option. This time I will not be waiting for SP1 as Win7 is far more stable and performs better than Vista even in the Release Candidate stage. Really looking forward to Oct 22.
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