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Windows 7: Windows 7 x64 vs Windows 7 x86 (Fight)

05 Aug 2009   #161
DJG

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by petrossa View Post
Can't beat that as argument

Better is relative term, not a definitive. Better how?
In energy consumption: no
In efficient memory addressing: no

I cant't bring up the energy to put a list of all pro's and con's but in the end it's good for what you want it to do.

I guess i'd be hesitant as a manufacturer to put a quadcore x64 in a microwave, just as much as i'd be hesitant to put an 8086 in a CAD machine.
Relativity still applies to energy consumption and memory addressing efficiency. There's far less power consumption from one current quad-core than the required Pentium I's required to equal the HP, if that's the level of HP required for the job. Same for memory efficiency.

The right tool for the right job, and don't forget the insurance, just in case ...

Edit: I should've added an x64 vs. x86 example: for 32-bit apps, then x64 has more power consumption. But compile it / tweak it for x64, then the x64 execution could be more efficient. It will be example specific.
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05 Aug 2009   #162
petrossa

vista x64/ win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DJG View Post
Edit: I should've added an x64 vs. x86 example: for 32-bit apps, then x64 has more power consumption. But compile it / tweak it for x64, then the x64 execution could be more efficient. It will be example specific.
that was my point.

But added to that, it's simple reason which tells you the greater the level of indirection the more cycles are eaten.

On an 8086 you just have 1 register to fill, 80286 2 registers.
on x64 you need to fill registers to point to a memory pool, which in turn points to the physical address.
No way that's efficient.
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05 Aug 2009   #163
DJG

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by petrossa View Post
that was my point.

But added to that, it's simple reason which tells you the greater the level of indirection the more cycles are eaten.

On an 8086 you just have 1 register to fill, 80286 2 registers.
on x64 you need to fill registers to point to a memory pool, which in turn points to the physical address.
No way that's efficient.
Yes but remember you only have to set up your base address once. Many functions involve processing blocks of addresses off a base address. Once set, then very often you're procesing those blocks 64+ bits per cycle, rather than 32.

There's no easy answer .
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05 Aug 2009   #164
Snufffed

 

Again, personal Opinion: Punch cards were better.
took half of the AM shift to get that dang calender right.
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05 Aug 2009   #165
DJG

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snuffy View Post
Again, personal Opinion: Punch cards were better.
took half of the AM shift to get that dang calender right.
Ahh, the Playboy Calendar in ASCII (or EBCDIC) ... good times!

OTOH, those TIFFs are probably more accurate .
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05 Aug 2009   #166
chuckr

XP_Pro, W7_7201, W7RC.vhd, SciLinux5.3, Fedora12, Fedora9_2x, OpenSolaris_09-06
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Antman View Post
Nice TIFFs. Can I have some fries with that shake?
Did she accept the complement and put extra fries in the container?
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05 Aug 2009   #167
DJG

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ChuckR View Post
Did she accept the complement and put extra fries in the container?
Depends, was she using one's complement or two's complement? Was the container properly instantiated with the right facade?
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05 Aug 2009   #168
DJG

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Antman View Post
She married me. Now those TIFFs belong to the baby.

My Milkshake brings all the boys to the yard,
And their like "It's better than yours"
Damn right, It's better than yours,
I can teach you, but I have to charge
For once I have no quick retort, no clever comeback, rien, nada, squat ...
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05 Aug 2009   #169
Snufffed

 

I really think Antman is saying:
A1 + A2 +A3 + B1 thru B37 = Chicago
Chicago = 10P
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05 Aug 2009   #170
myzr7

Windows 7 Ulti. x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snuffy View Post
I really think Antman is saying:
A1 + A2 +A3 + B1 thru B37 = Chicago
Chicago = 10P
I think it was more like "you have to pay your dues if you want to sing the blues" and that don't come easy! Ya know?
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