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Windows 7: Windows 7 x64 vs Windows 7 x86 (Fight)

13 Jul 2009   #81
Snufffed

 

If your mobo is only ATA - IDE, there are adapters that will modify the FASTER SATA HDDs, so they will work on the ATA mobos. ATA if you add a P=PATA which almost all mobos are, the diff is SATA will only take 1 S ATA HDD per connection. where PATA will take 2 ATA HDDs per.
I have been beta testing the old ATA addon PCI Card, which will if PATA HDDs add 4, but as SATA will add only 2 HDDs.

The Card I use is the older Promise ATA(Windows Vista Promise Ultra100 (tm) IDE Controller)(Driver= 2.1.0.3) quite old but still works very well with Win 7 7264. This allows 2 fast SATA HDDs. So even the old PATA HDD mobos only will accept the new faster SATA HDD,s with NO Problems.

I do hope this helps.
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13 Jul 2009   #82
Blackhawk7188

Vista Home Premium 64-bit SP2
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Gbsnplr View Post
I have found this discussion very interesting but must admitt to not understanding 1/3rd of it. Bottom line for me is how do I find faster HDs? I am not sure I am interested in going with SCSI because I would have to change MoBo's.

Thanks for the help.
What do you mean by a Faster HDD? If you mean in RPM then upgrade to a faster RPM like a 7200 or a 10000. If you mean data transfer...as of now SATA is kind of the standard to work with(300 Mb/s). If you are using IDE(100Mb/s) then you are going to be slower in data tranfer speeds. The best you can test now would a Solid State Drive. They are really good but have a setback of if you write to it too many times you can destroy it. They are still connected via SATA so the gain of a faster internal drive given same tranfer speeds if your choice.

If you dont have a SATA connector for your MOBO and you are still using IDE. The only thing you can do is change your motherboard. Using an in-line converter wont help your data speeds...you would still run at 100Mb/s approx.
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13 Jul 2009   #83
Snufffed

 

Blackhawk, your right also. but since we have no specs to what he has, both are DUH simply guessing at what we think is the best for him.
Sure would be nice to have the SPECs of CPU, mobo, memory, etc etc. then we could really help. Some time i suggest ppl get the faster HDDs not because they will actually make thing faster, they are simply cheaper and work better, and will work with the new mobs better.
Gads old small IDE Hdds cost more the bigger faster Satas. so the Adapter Kits are a nice method to do.
maybe he will SPEC up so we can assist better. Remeber he said:

Quote:
: Originally Posted by Gbsnplr
I have found this discussion very interesting but must admitt to not understanding 1/3rd of it. Bottom line for me is how do I find faster HDs?
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13 Jul 2009   #84
fakeasdf

Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04
 
 

Buy one of these SSD's...

Patriot Torqx 128GB SSD
OCZ Vertex 120GB v.1.1

or one of the Intel SSD's, but they are super expensive

Be careful buying an SSD, there were plenty of issues with most of the original SSD's due to the way that it was erasing data (The smallest amount of data that could be deleted at once is a page or 512 KB), whereas it could write spots as small as 4KB. So when it wanted to overwrite an 4KB spot it would have to move the whole page into cache, replace the spot it wanted to write to and then erase the page and move the cached page back into memory. It is all interesting and what not, read this article if you want to know more about it...

AnandTech: The SSD Anthology: Understanding SSDs and New Drives from OCZ
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13 Jul 2009   #85
mushroomboy

Windows 7, Linux
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Muad Dib View Post
I am so glad you took the time to answer the questions though, in truth, starting with the first post in this thread they were already answered.

I would simply add, "Why put a 2 barrel carburetor on a 454 big block?"

But in full disclosure I was not a proponent of Vista 64 bit for the "average" home user. Too many driver issues at the time of release....
I want a quad carb!!! Where is my quad carb!!!! I saw that and had to say something, worked with a guy who had a quad carb on his pickup, beastly thing. Either way why the hell are you using a 454 for every day use, isn't that overkill? lol
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13 Jul 2009   #86
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mushroomboy View Post
I want a quad carb!!! Where is my quad carb!!!! I saw that and had to say something, worked with a guy who had a quad carb on his pickup, beastly thing. Either way why the hell are you using a 454 for every day use, isn't that overkill? lol

'Cuz I'm an 'Merican, that's why! You'll take ma 4-barrel street-stomper from me when you prys it frum ma cold dead hands!
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13 Jul 2009   #87
Gbsnplr

Windows 7 x64
 
 

I have SATA now. And thanks for all the input.
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02 Aug 2009   #88
Ben1

Windows 7 ultimate 7600 RTM
 
 

My laptop is x64 compatible but I just didn't see the benefits.

I put x64 Ultimate on but went back to x86 because there's less compatibly and I just understand why is was better.

Ben.
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02 Aug 2009   #89
fakeasdf

Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ben1 View Post
My laptop is x64 compatible but I just didn't see the benefits.

I put x64 Ultimate on but went back to x86 because there's less compatibly and I just understand why is was better.

Ben.
I assume you mean less compatibility issues. Was there something in particular that didn't work in x64, or did you just feel like/think there was less compatibility?
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02 Aug 2009   #90
Sven

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I'm running win7 x64, and I'm very happy with it. I, on the other hand, have a friend with Core i7, 3Gb ram, 2x ATI 4870 in crossfire, and he won't run x64, because he can't get Windows Mail to work on x64. I have showed him the guide in this forum, and he tried a hole night, but without succes.
I don't know Windows mail myself, but what is the difference between Windows Mail (Vista) and Windows Live mail (as I use in Windows 7)?

When RC was new, I brought a Intel X25-M SSD to use as system disk, and just like the OP, I saw that x64 was slower to install than x86, but faster in all other stuff, especially on boot after Office 2007, Virus (Kaspersky 2009 IS), games, Nero and Paint shop pro was installed. Now I'm running 7264, x64 (have not tried x86 since RC), and I'm very happy with it. But I got some concern about rtm, as people are writing about more and more crashes in x64 RTM.
So when released, witch will be most STABLE, x86 or x64?
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