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18 Nov 2012   #411
whs
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For the Nexus 7 they are more reasonable. Only $50 extra from 16GB to 32GB. But all of that would not be necessary if they only put a micro SD card slot in. Attaching a stick or anything via OTG apparently does not work.
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18 Nov 2012   #412
noobvious

Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 (desktop)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
For the Nexus 7 they are more reasonable. Only $50 extra from 16GB to 32GB. But all of that would not be necessary if they only put a micro SD card slot in. Attaching a stick or anything via OTG apparently does not work.
I suspect that they want users to rely on the cloud (or iCloud if you have an iPad). So I'll stick with my Samsung tablet with microsdhc slot....and maybe at tax time upgrade my 32GB card to a 64GB.
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18 Nov 2012   #413
whs
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Which Samsung do you have - is that the one similar to the Nexus 7 and costs around $350 ??
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18 Nov 2012   #414
noobvious

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Which Samsung do you have - is that the one similar to the Nexus 7 and costs around $350 ??
It's the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, 16GB wifi-only version. It was originally released about a year ago.
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18 Nov 2012   #415
whs
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Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of. It was a bit pricey at the time. And it seems to have the Qualcom duo core and not the Tegra 3 CPU. But it has the advantage of the card slot. Did they ever upgrade it to 4.1 or 4.2 ??
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19 Nov 2012   #416
noobvious

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of. It was a bit pricey at the time. And it seems to have the Qualcom duo core and not the Tegra 3 CPU. But it has the advantage of the card slot. Did they ever upgrade it to 4.1 or 4.2 ??
I originally bought it in the spring of this year, and paid $350 for it. Then about a month later, I was bored with it, and traded it away for an imported 64GB Sony mp3 player that cost my buddy about the same amount of money.

Fast forward up to about a month ago, same buddy is in trouble with the wife for spending too much (which I'm sure a few of the members here can relate to) so he PM'd me one day and I ended up getting it back from him for $200, with two protective cases for it, still in immaculate condition, and having receives an over-the-air update to 4.04 at long last (it originally came with 3.2 Honeycomb).

You are correct, it has a dual-core chip running at 1.2Mhz. The ICS upgrade, from what I have read, made a noticeable difference in responsiveness. I certainly have no complaints with its performance. The card slot is handy....at the moment, mine is filled with movies and concert videos, and I have about 5GB of the essential music on the internal memory.

I don't know at this point if it will be upgraded to a newer Android than the current 4.04, but even if it stays as is, it still runs well enough to satisfy me.
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19 Nov 2012   #417
whs
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That was a long Odyssey for the device. I am glad your happy with it.
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20 Nov 2012   #418
cytherian

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Apple tech aficionados say that Apple embeds the memory because it works faster than a docked micro SDHC. There's also no overhead to deal with add/removal of the storage, and possible system faults if its removed while being depended upon (e.g. app installed on it or file I/O taking place). But I've seen performance shoot outs between the iPhone and Android phones, which included file I/O... and there wasn't an appreciable difference.
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20 Nov 2012   #419
whs
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cytherian View Post
Apple tech aficionados say that Apple embeds the memory because it works faster than a docked micro SDHC. There's also no overhead to deal with add/removal of the storage, and possible system faults if its removed while being depended upon (e.g. app installed on it or file I/O taking place). But I've seen performance shoot outs between the iPhone and Android phones, which included file I/O... and there wasn't an appreciable difference.
That can be a problem for system files, but does not matter for user files.

In Windows you have a similar case when you use a USB stick for ready boost. The system writes the pages on the stick but also on the HDD as backup - just in case you pull the stick in the middle of the operation.
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20 Nov 2012   #420
Everlong

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cytherian View Post
Apple tech aficionados say that Apple embeds the memory because it works faster than a docked micro SDHC. There's also no overhead to deal with add/removal of the storage, and possible system faults if its removed while being depended upon (e.g. app installed on it or file I/O taking place). But I've seen performance shoot outs between the iPhone and Android phones, which included file I/O... and there wasn't an appreciable difference.
Google's mentality behind leaving out a removeable SD slot in the Nexus devices (not sure about the likes of HTC etc) is because it can confuse users as to where their files are when the phone has multiple storage locations i.e. there will be the internal storage for all system, data, some user files, and then the SD card has user files, some app files, and from Android 2.2, data files.

Maybe it's just me taking knowledge for granted, but I'm not sure why a user would get confused. Unless the user roots their phone, they can't see any of the storage past the SD card, and everything a user would use is on the sd card anyway (photos, music, videos).
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