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Windows 7: Convincing a father to allow his son to subscribe..

05 Aug 2009   #21
Zidane24

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by darkassain View Post
according to this....
https://om.one.microsoft.com/OPA/htm...C/TC-en-us.htm
which is the agreemnent...
and i quote...
Well thats a dagger to the heart there Looks like that is the only way then Codfish...have you tried your other parent/guardian (if there is another)?
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05 Aug 2009   #22
Codfish

Windows 7 32bit(main) and Windows XP
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Well, hopefully your father is just really looking out for your best interests here. I mean, the likihood of you actually getting your $350 worth out a year of TechNet is pretty small. And if you father knows anything about software licensing, he may realize that what you are doing is not within the licensing agreement anyway.

I mean being brutally honest...why spend money on Technet...if you are just going to NOT ABIDE by the licensing rules anyway and install for production use and use it on numerous computers and share with others? Doesn't make sense to me.

And as far as parent's oversight on the spending of own money....a lot of factors play into this. Past spending habits, the need to borrow money from parents for other things that you do need. My parents always watched my spending as well and in the end I think it taught me a lot of valuable life lessons that I am thankful for everyday now.
This will be basically the only thing I've bought, other than the computer I currently own right now which I spent about $700 on considering the upgrades and other things.

And getting the "bang for my buck" is going to be hard, if not, impossible?

Windows 7 Ultimate = $219.99 at the most smallest amount paid.

Then let's say for some odd reason, I want to try dual booting Windows 7 Ultimate as well as Windows 7 Pro.

Windows 7 Professional = $199.99 at the most smallest amount paid.

$219.99 + $199.99 = $410(rounding off).. That's nearly $75 over the amount that I paid!
So that's what I don't understand.. how is it that spending a mere $350 on a subscription has a very small chance of me getting my moneys worth when it's as easy as two Operating Systems away.

As for the licensing and other things, I'm not sure. I'd rather do this than pirate my way into Windows 7 Ultimate, though.
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05 Aug 2009   #23
Zidane24

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Codfish View Post
This will be basically the only thing I've bought, other than the computer I currently own right now which I spent about $700 on considering the upgrades and other things.

And getting the "bang for my buck" is going to be hard, if not, impossible?

Windows 7 Ultimate = $219.99 at the most smallest amount paid.

Then let's say for some odd reason, I want to try dual booting Windows 7 Ultimate as well as Windows 7 Pro.

Windows 7 Professional = $199.99 at the most smallest amount paid.

$219.99 + $199.99 = $410(rounding off).. That's nearly $75 over the amount that I paid!
So that's what I don't understand.. how is it that spending a mere $350 on a subscription has a very small chance of me getting my moneys worth when it's as easy as two Operating Systems away.

As for the licensing and other things, I'm not sure. I'd rather do this than pirate my way into Windows 7 Ultimate, though.
I hate to be cyncial here but at least you would be giving Microsoft something for their OS...pirating is never right
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05 Aug 2009   #24
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Codfish View Post
Windows 7 Ultimate = $219.99 at the most smallest amount paid.
First off, i think there is NO REASON whatsoever that you need Ultimate. However, if you really feel the urge to get it....you can get Vista Ultimate with a free upgrade to Windows 7 for $189 from NewEgg. Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 32-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - Operating Systems. Thus you could evaluate whether you wanted to use Vista or Windows 7.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Codfish View Post
Then let's say for some odd reason, I want to try dual booting Windows 7 Ultimate as well as Windows 7 Pro.
Who would ever do this?? You don't dual boot the same operating system. Windows 7 Ultimate and Windows 7 Premium are the same thing. If you have Ultimate, you have everything that 7 Premium has.



Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Codfish View Post
how is it that spending a mere $350 on a subscription has a very small chance of me getting my moneys worth when it's as easy as two Operating Systems away.
Well, you can get 2 operating systems here for $109 Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 32-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - Operating Systems. That's Vista and Windows 7. That's 1/3 the cost.
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05 Aug 2009   #25
Codfish

Windows 7 32bit(main) and Windows XP
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Zidane24 View Post
Well thats a dagger to the heart there Looks like that is the only way then Codfish...have you tried your other parent/guardian (if there is another)?
Well that's another thing.
The parents need to come to an agreement and if they do not I can't just go to the one parent that approves and get them to sign it, not only would my other parent guilt trip me but I'd get pretty guilty after as well.
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05 Aug 2009   #26
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Codfish View Post
As for the licensing and other things, I'm not sure. I'd rather do this than pirate my way into Windows 7 Ultimate, though.
I was being somewhat cynical in my post....but the facts seem to indicate that you want to spend a certain amount of money (perhaps $350) in this case, but then use that $350 to install essentially unlimited installs of the software and not within an "evaluation" context but rather in a "instead of paying the real price that Microsoft is asking" manner.

I'm not going to lie, Microsoft OS's when you have multiple computers is expensive..., but that also doesn't mean that it should be stolen or license agreements violated. That's the great thing about this new Family Pack and the beauty of having other OS options like Linux to choose from for secondary and tertiary computers.
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05 Aug 2009   #27
Zidane24

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Codfish View Post
Well that's another thing.
The parents need to come to an agreement and if they do not I can't just go to the one parent that approves and get them to sign it, not only would my other parent guilt trip me but I'd get pretty guilty after as well.
You wouldn't happen to be a son of a lawyer or other business type family would you?
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05 Aug 2009   #28
Codfish

Windows 7 32bit(main) and Windows XP
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
First off, i think there is NO REASON whatsoever that you need Ultimate. However, if you really feel the urge to get it....you can get Vista Ultimate with a free upgrade to Windows 7 for $189 from NewEgg. Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 32-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - Operating Systems. Thus you could evaluate whether you wanted to use Vista or Windows 7.
The problem with that is that it's an OEM System Builders disc.
I remember asking about that too and then later found out that it's basically an OEM license that you attach to the computer that you built. Meaning if you change one thing about the physical hardware of the computer(ex: upgrading 1GB of RAM to 2 GB of RAM) it will screw up the license or something similar and will end the license because it doesn't have the same specs as it did when I activated it with the OEM license.

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Who would ever do this?? You don't dual boot the same operating system. Windows 7 Ultimate and Windows 7 Premium are the same thing. If you have Ultimate, you have everything that 7 Premium has.
Well I'm sorry if I made a bad example.

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Well, you can get 2 operating systems here for $109 Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 32-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - Operating Systems. That's Vista and Windows 7. That's 1/3 the cost.
Once again, I wouldn't be able to upgrade any of my parts if I went with that.
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05 Aug 2009   #29
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

Well cost/benefit of Technet aside (I have a subscription) you mentioned learning to program. That is great but the Technet Subscrption does not include evaluation copies of the developement tools such as Visual Studio Pro, etc.

Just wanted to make sure you were aware of that.

But I will bet that a person with your initiative will find alternatives to get started with.
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05 Aug 2009   #30
Zidane24

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Muad Dib View Post
Well cost/benefit of Technet aside (I have a subscription) you mentioned learning to program. That is great but the Technet Subscrption does not include evaluation copies of the developement tools such as Visual Studio Pro, etc.

Just wanted to make sure you were aware of that.

But I will bet that a person with your initiative will find alternatives to get started with.
If he were to buy a MSDN subscription would that include dev tools along with any OS/Office Software?
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