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07 Aug 2009   #21
petrossa

vista x64/ win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Antman View Post
He threatened while I was typing. I got the smack down.

Smackonic.
Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.
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07 Aug 2009   #22
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 



~Lordbob
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08 Aug 2009   #23
DJG

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
Here's something not worth own thread but what I want to say. If I misunderstood the point of this thread, I sincerely ask the OP to tell it to me and I will delete this post.

We, household CEO and I, we like to watch an American TV-series "Numb3rs". Just yesterday when watching an episode I was thinking the difference between European PAL and American NTSC systems. (NTSC = Never The Same Color)

I mean, I paid a lot of completely digital high-end Home Entertainment system with FullHD 1080 capability, and then most of the shows I'd like to watch come from U.S.A., so what I see is quite a lousy picture most often in 4:3 format. The quality is often quite poor because of converting NTSC to PAL.

Back there behind the big water, is this Digital Broadcasting you just started going to make a change in my dilemma? May I see better picture quality in American shows in the future?

Kari
Kari, the problem is not in the NTSC standard. The problem is in the crappy implementation providers use. The bottom line rules, and the bottom line says "compress the bejeezus out of it as long as it sort of ressembles the original so we can send two or three additional signals in the same bandwidth".

Now with HD, you get compression artifacts that are smaller . Hell, an upscaled well-mastered DVD sometimes looks better than the station / cable / satellite transmitted HD program.

For true HD, look to Blu-Ray, but that will only bring me to my pet peeve rant, which I may start a thread about ... and no, it's not about the format war, that's over and done and gone. And the image quality is great. No, it's about how can a bunch of multi-billion technological corporations can come up with such a moronic set of UI standards, if standard is indeed a concept that can be applied to it.
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08 Aug 2009   #24
DJG

 

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I hope you do a better job with the calendar ...
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08 Aug 2009   #25
DJG

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Antman View Post
Science.

I mean, scienconic.
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OMG, now he's got me doing it!!!
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08 Aug 2009   #26
petrossa

vista x64/ win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DJG View Post
Kari, the problem is not in the NTSC standard.
welllll, not completely. PAL is more likely to give an image in the correct colours. Since digital satellite went live the signal is compressed to ridiculous tidbits and still it comes out sort of ok.

btw:

Here's something not worth own thread but what I want to say. If I misunderstood the point of this thread, I sincerely ask the OP to tell it to me and I will delete this post.

In view of the identity of the OP sincerely asking him something doesn't get you anywhere.
I guess Dwarf found a way to converse sincerely with him though
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08 Aug 2009   #27
DJG

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by petrossa View Post
... sort of ok.
I rest my case . Add to that the TV set to "Vivid" ...
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08 Aug 2009   #28
billman87

Windows 7
 
 

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08 Aug 2009   #29
petrossa

vista x64/ win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DJG View Post
I rest my case . Add to that the TV set to "Vivid" ...
vivid ouch. If anything the colours are overfed. I have to set tv to cold, and put all 3 colours to about 35 out of 100

What bites is the compression,mpeg3/4. You can see the artifacts;

The image when not moving to much is ok, if not you get a bit like the cleartype effect. Bit fuzzy around the edges and fast moving objects tend to pixelblock a bit.
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08 Aug 2009   #30
Dwarf

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
 
 

This explains some of the similarities (and differences) between NTSC and PAL encoding: NTSC vs PAL - Difference and Comparison - Diffen
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