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Everyone knows that the Earth is flat ... my ex wife fell off about 25 years ago, and I havent seen her since...
How the First Planets Formed
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New #93
i had a wife once. we met when she jabbed a crayon in my ear. next day we were married. but i was held back, and she moved on to 1st grade.... and i never saw her again. i was a young (5) fool then, and should have known it couldn't last forever.
HA!
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New #95
no. like i said, i was a fool. she made off with all of my markers, safety scissors, and my power rangers book bag.I would imagine you were smart enough to sign a prenump yes?
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New #96
See below. And a choirboy you may very well be, perhaps what you infer in jest is lost on me.
That is an entirely unambiguous statement. In effect, your claim is (however concise or clever) that we are destined to wax philosophical about the nature of all things, but doomed to a meager and pauper's grasp.
This strikes me as pernicious summation of the species. The suggestion or notion that we are dim-witted fools, hapless plebs in the hands of a divine and spooky father-figure, who should be grateful for their mere existence is patently offensive and the foundation for my antitheist stance.
If "we cannot know" then we are 'created' as such, yet, the believers would tell you that we are created in his likeness; imbued with sense, intellect and reason, yet intended to forgo their use. This singular concept (vicarious redemption being a very close second) is, without a doubt, the most egregious posit put forth by deists.
Indeed, and exactly my original point. Again, in our collective nascence, we struggle to grasp the data being given to us. Given (and in spite of) their limited tools, they made tremendous leaps in logic to postulate that their observations were conclusive - clearly contravening established dogma.
It is squarely on their foundations that the rest of us have been propelled forward. Einstein was open to the idea of black holes, he simply lacked definitive evidence for them. Ironically, this was his stance on deism, and he repeatedly claimed that lack of evidence does not mean a lack of existence - rather that the 'leap' was simply unnecessary. Like Laplace before him, he simply knew that this model works perfectly well without divine intervention.
To be fair, black holes are something we still do not fully understand. The singularity is, in all likelihood, one of the stranger phenomena we will have to consider. It boggles the mind but I take solace in knowing that it baffled Einstein, as well.
While we don't yet fully grasp their mechanism, we will - and we will do so by omitting any notions of a celestial chimera.
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New #97
Hi Captain Zero,
You made your point, and content wise I agree with you.
But somewhere there must be a misunderstanding.
As far as I know, Antman is as much a deist as you are. (NOT)
And he made quite a few subtle and less subtle hints to that fact in this thread.
You don't need to tell him the model doesn't need a divine intervention.
(hence "preaching to the choir")
And he didn't say wonderment is futile.
(hence "we cannot know, we can wonder")
I'm not sure what got you triggered but I honestly think you misunderstood him.
Greetz
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New #99
Honestly, I genuinely expect better from you and am shocked.
As I said, perhaps something you said was meant in jest, and misinterpreted as such. Regardless, I'm entitled to rebut your statements, especially if I'm attacked for them.
I'd simply never call you or anyone else an idiot, that's just shameful.
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New #100
...as being one who is part of a choir, no? Self-admitted, as it was. And it has nothing to do with being at a keyboard, I'd just as easily - and readily say it standing before you. Why wouldn't I?
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