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Windows 7: PlayStation 3 Owners?

08 Sep 2009   #51
Orbital Shark

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AlexT2889 View Post
LOL, well I got my "2nd" baby secured at Wal-Mart, a Sony BRAVIA L-Series) Model: KDL 32 5000, I like the 4000 better because it's curvy and has see through plastic bit on bottem but it's outdated now. $498 tax-free . Oh it's 720p because I've made up my mind spending the extra money on useless resolution that is barely noticeable is stupid, now I have money left over for Sony 6ft. HDMI cable and GTA4, let the battle begin in a week and half!
Does it still look outstanging on 720?

I've got a 43" Pioneer that is only 720 but still want a PS3
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08 Sep 2009   #52
AlexT2889

Windows 7™ Home Premium x64/Sony PS3 XrossMediaBar™ FW 3.30/Sony PSP XrossMediaBar™ FW 6.20
 
 

Well the 4000 model of the L-Series was on display, we did have the TV I originally planned to get in 1080p the S-Series (5100) model but it was a 40 inch display model and I started noticing the defects I read about in reviews like the corner of the screen being dull and darker. The 4000 looked outstanding though, but I getting the updated model which looks kinda dull on the aethestic department. The (L-Series) 5000 model was still back in the stock room on shelves, we have 6 currently. I'm glad I work at Wal-Mart, I get to see what we have and don't, sure beats worrying about availability

TV Orignally planned to get: (KDL-32S5100) 1080p http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...52921665746334
TV on display currently: (KDL-32L4000) 720p http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...:dg_tv_gglsrch
TV definitely getting: (KDL-32L5000) 720p http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/...52921665746294

I AM confused about one thing, the TV's native resolution is 720p, but Sony says if I use a HDMI cable for PlayStation 3 or BluRay player, I get uncompressed 1080/60hz picture. What gives? Does it mean I'll get 1080p only on HDMI?
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08 Sep 2009   #53
Orbital Shark

 
 

I'm thinking that Sony mean that HDMI has the capabilities of 1080p and not that you will be recieving 1080p. If your display is 720p then it will only display 720p, I think it will be a scaled down 1080p
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08 Sep 2009   #54
Dark Nova Gamer

Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AlexT2889 View Post
Well the 4000 model of the L-Series was on display, we did have the TV I originally planned to get in 1080p the S-Series (5100) model but it was a 40 inch display model and I started noticing the defects I read about in reviews like the corner of the screen being dull and darker. The 4000 looked outstanding though, but I getting the updated model which looks kinda dull on the aethestic department. The (L-Series) 5000 model was still back in the stock room on shelves, we have 6 currently. I'm glad I work at Wal-Mart, I get to see what we have and don't, sure beats worrying about availability

TV Orignally planned to get: (KDL-32S5100) 1080p KDL-32S5100 | 32" Class BRAVIA S Series LCD HDTV | Sony | Sony Style USA
TV on display currently: (KDL-32L4000) 720p KDL-32L4000 | 32" Class BRAVIA L Series LCD HDTV | Sony | Sony Style USA
TV definitely getting: (KDL-32L5000) 720p KDL-32L5000 | 32" Class BRAVIA L Series LCD HDTV | Sony | Sony Style USA

I AM confused about one thing, the TV's native resolution is 720p, but Sony says if I use a HDMI cable for PlayStation 3 or BluRay player, I get uncompressed 1080/60hz picture. What gives? Does it mean I'll get 1080p only on HDMI?
I'd assume you'd only get 720p since its the low of the two.

If 720p TV's could display 1080p quality what would be the point of even differentiating the two? (sorry if I misunderstood what you said )
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08 Sep 2009   #55
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DarkNovaGundam View Post
If 720p TV's could display 1080p quality what would be the point of even differentiating the two? (sorry if I misunderstood what you said )
Why differentiate the 2???? It's because the manufacturers were able to come out with new products and people bought into the hype and decided to upgrade their existing sets. And people walked into a store and wanted to ensure that they would be more "future proof", so they spent the extra and got the 1080p for good measure.

What it boils down to is the source itself. Meaning that obviously a 1080p bluray disc itself contains more data and thus presents a far superior picture over a DVD. If you take this outstanding picture quality source (blu ray disk) and play it back on a 1080p display that is properly calibrated or a 720p display which is properly calibrated, the human eye doesn't really have the ability to discern the difference between the two from any reasonable viewing difference. Thus, they end up looking the same.

Now, the opposite isn't true with lower source materials. A standard DVD for example is 480 lines of resolution...so when played back on a 720p display it has to upconvert a fair amount and when upconverting to 1080p it has to upconvert quite a bit. Therefore, if you watch lower quality source material more often, there is an actual advantage to having 720p over 1080p...because there are simply fewer lines to have to upconvert into and generally speaking the results are better.

So, I classify the 1080p "True HD" or "Full-HD" malarky as a bunch of bologna when it comes down to the television display itself. It's the quality of the components within the television that make the most difference and not simply that resolution. For this reason, I choose and still would choose a higher end 720p display over a lower end 1080p display because I am getting more quality for the same amount of money, rather than a higher specification which doesn't amount to something that the human eye can perceive.

So, I hope that's clear. It's the source material that matters...not the # of lines of resolution in the display.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Orbital Shark View Post
I've got a 43" Pioneer that is only 720 but still want a PS3
For the reasons states above, the 720p is nothing to be sad about. I just recently upgraded my living room TV to a Panasonic Plasma and went for a 720p on purpose. It looks the same for less money. Therefore, I spent the saved money on the 1080p on something else.
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08 Sep 2009   #56
Orbital Shark

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
For the reasons states above, the 720p is nothing to be sad about. I just recently upgraded my living room TV to a Panasonic Plasma and went for a 720p on purpose. It looks the same for less money. Therefore, I spent the saved money on the 1080p on something else.
Ah that's good, i'd hate to think that i'd wasted £3,995* on a crap telly

*price correct as of 2006

Additional: nice bit of info there mate
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08 Sep 2009   #57
Dark Nova Gamer

Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DarkNovaGundam View Post
If 720p TV's could display 1080p quality what would be the point of even differentiating the two? (sorry if I misunderstood what you said )
Why differentiate the 2???? It's because the manufacturers were able to come out with new products and people bought into the hype and decided to upgrade their existing sets. And people walked into a store and wanted to ensure that they would be more "future proof", so they spent the extra and got the 1080p for good measure.

What it boils down to is the source itself. Meaning that obviously a 1080p bluray disc itself contains more data and thus presents a far superior picture over a DVD. If you take this outstanding picture quality source (blu ray disk) and play it back on a 1080p display that is properly calibrated or a 720p display which is properly calibrated, the human eye doesn't really have the ability to discern the difference between the two from any reasonable viewing difference. Thus, they end up looking the same.

Now, the opposite isn't true with lower source materials. A standard DVD for example is 480 lines of resolution...so when played back on a 720p display it has to upconvert a fair amount and when upconverting to 1080p it has to upconvert quite a bit. Therefore, if you watch lower quality source material more often, there is an actual advantage to having 720p over 1080p...because there are simply fewer lines to have to upconvert into and generally speaking the results are better.

So, I classify the 1080p "True HD" or "Full-HD" malarky as a bunch of bologna when it comes down to the television display itself. It's the quality of the components within the television that make the most difference and not simply that resolution. For this reason, I choose and still would choose a higher end 720p display over a lower end 1080p display because I am getting more quality for the same amount of money, rather than a higher specification which doesn't amount to something that the human eye can perceive.

So, I hope that's clear. It's the source material that matters...not the # of lines of resolution in the display.
Did I offend you in some way..?
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08 Sep 2009   #58
Orbital Shark

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DarkNovaGundam View Post
Did I offend you in some way..?
I don't see his response being within the 'I was offended' category
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08 Sep 2009   #59
Dark Nova Gamer

Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Orbital Shark View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DarkNovaGundam View Post
Did I offend you in some way..?
I don't see his response being within the 'I was offended' category
Lol okay, usually when people make big responses it means I offended them. :|
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08 Sep 2009   #60
Zidane24

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
 
 

Alex I hope you didn't get an HDMI cord from walmart....any generic one works for the PS3 or 360. My HDMI cord was 99 cent plus $1 shipping from Hong Kong....have had it for two years now

Walmart ones are OUTRAGEOUS
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