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    The concept of time


    After having a look at the profiles, there seem to be a lot of knowledgeable senior members present in here on this forum. :)

    The concept of time as a 4th dimension has been confusing me since I was born, lol.

    I have seen many Discovery shows on YouTube where they say time is personal, not universal. Time runs at different rates for different people. There's no past, present and future. All exist simulteneuosly, means the future, present and past are all 'happening' at the same time. It's just we who have created the concept of past, present and future and the concept of 'beginning' and 'ending'.

    In those videos, they had nicely explained the concept of time using a very simple example.

    Case 1: You are moving towards absolute North direction @ 50 kmph. In this case, the rate at which you move towards the north is 50 kmph.

    Case 2: You are moving north-west @ 50 kmph. In this case, the rate at which you are moving towards absolute north is less than 50 kmph since some of your speed has been 'diverted' towards west direction.

    In a similar way, when an object is moving towards you, the rate of the object's time flow will appear slower to you with respect to that of your own and vice-versa.

    They said that a part of that object's time flow is 'diverted' towards its motion, and hence the result.

    Another example they gave is that, if I am sitting at one place and you are coming towards me (ie. you are in motion w.r.t to me), I am going to see things slow down for you, everything will appear to happen in slow motion to me. They said this effect is real but is so miniscule, that it can't be noticed (reason being our relatively slow rate of motion in everyday life, 500 kmph? That's nothing compared to light speed)

    I find it impossible to even imagine or understand this concept of diversion of time due to motion.

    I expect some mature answers from our respected senior members. I remember, there's someone who learns astronomy (maybe Mrs. Archer? -- no it's someone else...), I don't remember, so am excited for the responses.
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    I have been known to fool arround with Time



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    DocBrown said:
    I have been known to fool arround with Time



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    What's that? A time machine? If yes, hand it over to me or I'll shoot you, lol
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    Time has no meaning beyond what mankind gives it. It applies on Earth but nowhere else and is relevant only at the moment you think about it. Not to offend some but even on this planet, it boggles the mind that humans have existed but a mere fraction of a moment in the history of Earth. The light we see from most stars was emitted thousands and even millions of years ago. We see the light and call it the present time but it is ancient by any other rule. So is this the present or the past? If we could travel to the source would that then be the present or the future back on Earth? Or would it still be the past since we can see other stars further away? So in a sense, the past, present and future do exist in a single moment in time. It's part of quantum physics that states that all possible events are occurring at the same "time". Our view of one event won't change the others because they already happened.
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    carwiz said:
    Time has no meaning beyond what mankind gives it. It applies on Earth but nowhere else and is relevant only at the moment you think about it. Not to offend some but even on this planet, it boggles the mind that humans have existed but a mere fraction of a moment in the history of Earth. The light we see from most stars was emitted thousands and even millions of years ago. We see the light and call it the present time but it is ancient by any other rule. So is this the present or the past? If we could travel to the source would that then be the present or the future back on Earth? Or would it still be the past since we can see other stars further away? So in a sense, the past, present and future do exist in a single moment in time. It's part of quantum physics that states that all possible events are occurring at the same "time". Our view of one event won't change the others because they already happened.
    Awesome post. I was damn sure I would be getting some beautiful answers.

    Your post changed the way I have been thinking for the past 20 years. Ready to face some sleepless nights thinking the new way.

    Thanks again for that awesome post of yours.
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    The concept of time varies according to the theory one applies. Because theory can not be proved or disproved pondering on such things is a waste of TIME.
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    I'm not in anyway trying to become a scientist or a thinker, I'm just hyper fascinated by the fact that I can age slower w.r.t you and thus 'see' your future, lol...
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    I remember, there's someone who learns astronomy (maybe Mrs. Archer? -- no it's someone else...), I don't remember, so am excited for the responses. :D
    No it wasn't me you're right there, this is a bit too deep for my simple mind.
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    Joan Archer said:
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    I remember, there's someone who learns astronomy (maybe Mrs. Archer? -- no it's someone else...), I don't remember, so am excited for the responses. :D
    No it wasn't me you're right there, this is a bit too deep for my simple mind.
    Well, you're a genius BTW! Your reputation points show that clearly!
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    I don't even know what w.r.t. means. I'm sure it's not English.
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