Any Vapers?

derekimo said:

Night Hawk said:

I pmed you about there derekimo one being 411vapes and the place I included to keep an eye on for specials. Eleaf iStick, Compact 20w Box Mod $31.49 | Best Vape Deals

I forgot about those, thanks for reminding me. :)

I just subscribed to vapingcheap, I didn't see an option to do that without a facebook account on the 411vapes.

He has a regular review site as well as an FB page where he posts video review segments regularly seen at 411Vapes.com: Informing the E-cigarette world one review at a time. |

The Vaping Cheap site is where a good number of deals fron a vendor named Goldstar Vapes and listings for things found at Fasttech like the Big Dripper 2 running for $18.99 upto $24 at some places found there for only $13.11. Fasttech also has the Vamo V6 both me and Paul went for only about $26.50 or so while I paid out $46 from another vendor I have ordered from.

As for vaping discussions that's one social network buzzing with a large number of vaping groups with the number of groups continuing to grow almost daily it seems! Most vendors will have their own pages as well as some started up by some nonprofit consumer action groups like CASAA you may have heard of.

Now for the Eleaf iStick mod there I wasn't even going to bother with that one at first having already replaced the Groove II with the VTR due to being able to replace the battery rather then the sealed up type in the MVP and other similar mods but figured why not due to having the 510 tanks laying about. Now I just saw one other box mod coming out with a 6600mah sealed battery in it. Cylapex Vapower 6600mAh VV/VW Mod Can Read Resistance

Wishmaster said:

I just made a recipie I love! And pretty simple too. been vaping it all day .. taste sort like those little smartie candies.

12mg at a 50/50 blend
Flavorings used were:
14% TFA Sweet and Tart
3% TFA Sweetner
2% TFA Blueberry Extra

Loving it so far, though some may hate it. Despite being a total og 19% flavoring, its really not that strong and in your face either. Rather subtle. Though if you mixed at a higher PG ratio it probably would have stronger flavor.


On a side note, for those who wouldn't mind moving into building your own, look at those Kayfun Lite Tanks. Im telling you they are worth it. You may find, like me, that it'll become the only thing you ever use. I went through alot of mods and tanks before getting one. i wish now I would have just started with one TBH.
They will work on any 510 connection mod, and it really is a huge difference overall... regardless what mod you use.

When trying an 80PG/20VG ratio for a cherry flavor from one place I had noticed the option for additional flavor shots but thought it might get too sweet with the three options. I was wrong! Instead once I found I could still only barely taste the cherry flavoring I had regretted not going with the 3rd option! You can bet with a 100% VG mix you will be wanting that extra flavoring added in!

Now for main use here I've been seeing a lot of great results from using the Smok Tumblers and having tried out a number of other tanks including the Aero tank mini and mega tanks with an air flow control I still find those the best for general use but advise the 2ohm not the 1.8ohm which still isn't bad and especially the 2.4ohm unless accustomed to cranking things up a bit. The 2ohm seems best for that tank's design as far as both flavor and vapor output.

For the 510 threaded tanks tried out I find the Smok T-Dux 4.0 should work out nicely with the little iStick there for vaping on the go when not wearing anything with deep enough pockets for one the eGo-V Mega batteries or getting the belt holder(made by Innokin) fixed when the cell phone pressed up against that and the loop tore off!

As for mixing thing I have done that at times with existing flavors to get ideas for suggestions as well as which flavor combos would work together while my interest was more at finding which ones will mesh when menthol is added since that tends to dominate over things once added in later. If and When I get around to do any DIYing here that will provide some insight as to which flavors to mix with menthol and how much menthol should be in there. I ordered some flavors that could use a boost while others you can only vape for short time and then switch off to something else.

I generally do not like menthol myself.

But, I've been doing some 0 nic mixes and vaping them some in hopes of helping me lower my nic intake quicker.
i found that almost all my mixes had little to no throat hit. At first I thought it was due to my 50/50 blends and tried 70PG/30 Vg but didnt help much.

So as of late, ALL my 0nic mixes are menthol. (Well Koolada actually. Its like menthol with the cooling effect and throat hit but with out the menthol flavor)
Apple + Menthol is pretty good :)

It would seem the Nic content contributes to throat hit far more than the PG/Vg ratio. Although they do impact it, not nearly as much. At least thats what it seems like from my experiments so far.

What I get at times with or without nicotine present are hot spots. The throat hit will start to burn where I then have to back off and sometimes lower the watts or simply take a brief pause to allow things to cool off.

Taking a puff too fast when first hitting the button where it doesn't allow enough time with some flavors to fully vaporize the ejuice loading into the coil can see that as well. That can create problems like burn spots on the wick especially with the long wicked 1.6ml clearomizers. Once a burn spot appears you will tend to get the burnt taste.

The description I hear most often from others about the difference having nic present or 0% is the notice of a warmer throat hit which also effects the flavoring to a certain extent. When going from 0 to 18mg for example to find out how one vendor's flavor would taste I saw the same thing where the taste was noticeably off a bit. That was with a menthol tobacco flavor as well as one or two others several months back while I had been observing things when being sent samples to try out on various tanks and batteries when a friend was first starting up a new elquids business. Some friends who I introduced to vaping demanded nicotine while I was looking simply to dump that entirely as part of the time to leave it well behind when going to quit.

As for Koolada I can point you right at one flavor that feels like an attual fruit blend type drink in a glass with ice cubes. That was how good the blend came out with a strawberry and lemonade blend with cherry and Koolada added into to make that one up. Southern Chill That vendor has used Koolada for several flavors already mostly being used in the Fruit Flavors and Beverages & Drinks catagories. Yet another flavor uses Mint without any cooling effect as a balancing agent in a Mojito flavor with a sweet Blackberry mix with Lime and a hint of coconut. You'll notice the Lime in there with citrus presence. Baja Juice - Blackberry Mojito

The menthol in vapor here replaces what was in smoke over a 35+yr. habit I finally was able to dump completely without looking back simply by having an alternative other then smoke to control allergies by preventing as well as resolving the sneezing spasms and runny nose and being out of commission for a few hours when an attack comes on without. Koolada as a substitute hasn't shown the same effect in that regard while it provides the cold drink effect with most flavors it is used with.

So I got this today. Before you ask, Yes it fitted through my letterbox lol.

It has a selection of juices of varying PG/VG, 3 are 50/50, 1 is 40/60, 1 is 30/70 and 1 is 100% VG! Strength wise they are all 18mg bar the over the rainbow which comes in a max strength of 12mg.

The packaging was great and they all smell fantastic, I was pretty pumped to test them out.

That's pretty much where the fun ended.

They say taste is very individual and subjective. They ain't wrong. Sadly they managed to choose 6 out of 6 juices which didn't agree with my taste buds. I spent a good 3hrs trying them all out, cleaning tanks, replacing coils. It was an interesting experience. I have not written them all off completely and I will try them again but I am back to the Mum's custard I had before they arrived for now.
Oddly people are starting to report they love them all and on the official site to buy one of them it has 269 reviews and they all give it 5 stars, a lot say it's an awesome all day vape, I was sick of the stuff after 10 hits on it! There must be something wrong with me!

I said to Steve in an email earlier, it would be good if we could work out a way to send each other our rejects if it's not too expensive. You never know we might like what the other doesn't. No point in having a draw full of juice that never gets used.

One solution is to attend vape meets! I know a couple locally that travel around and swap flavors from various vendors with others they meet at these events. You would need to look into something like that to see if they hold where you are.

And in the other news I find the new mod I ordered puts out more vapor with the exact tank then seen when on the Vamos or one of the VW batteries. That would be the Eleaf iStick which also adjusts the voltage when going to adjust the wattage which still amounts to a VV mod not one that separates the V from the W. In fact I'm running at 5w where the voltage shows 3.1v. I made a comparison by placing the MVP and one of the eGo-V batteries next to it to show how small this 20watter is!

The MVP has a Smok Tumbler on that while the iStick and eGo battery both have the latest Smok T-Dux 4.0 4ml tank on to further illustrate the size differences. Makes it easy to use while driving.

Night Hawk said:

One solution is to attend vape meets! I know a couple locally that travel around and swap flavors from various vendors with others they meet at these events. You would need to look into something like that to see if they hold where you are.

And in the other news I find the new mod I ordered puts out more vapor with the exact tank then seen when on the Vamos or one of the VW batteries. That would be the Eleaf iStick which also adjusts the voltage when going to adjust the wattage which still amounts to a VV mod not one that separates the V from the W. In fact I'm running at 5w where the voltage shows 3.1v. I made a comparison by placing the MVP and one of the eGo-V batteries next to it to show how small this 20watter is!

The MVP has a Smok Tumbler on that while the iStick and eGo battery both have the latest Smok T-Dux 4.0 4ml tank on to further illustrate the size differences. Makes it easy to use while driving.

Feck that shite Hawk, I don't want to be in some group of people all trying to squeeze their lungs to push out the biggest cloud to show off their superior hardware! "Look how big my cloud is!" (Their moms would be so proud!) I would end up wrapping the hardware round their little skulls that somehow manage to house a brain big enough to do everyday tasks.

Arh so you got an Eleaf, I could have sworn I posted a size comparison pic against an MVP2 a few pages back, it was a pink one, kind of hard to miss pmsl! So you like the iStick then? It packs a good punch for a little one doesn't it!

Oh and I can't believe it but the new innokin SVD 2.0 runs coils down to 0.5ohm! I wish I hadn't bought the vamo V6 now. But Christmas is coming lol.

So today I forgot spare juice, so said what the heck, go grab some more and pull the trigger and get the smoketec sid. Well I did get some juice, but they don't carry the sid anymore. I suggested they update the website.

The new juice I got is called rasta juice, I don't see it on their website but if I remember right he called it jamacian rum. Guess the label is wrong but either way it's a good flavor.

paulpicks21 said:

Feck that shite Hawk, I don't want to be in some group of people all trying to squeeze their lungs to push out the biggest cloud to show off their superior hardware! "Look how big my cloud is!" (Their moms would be so proud!) I would end up wrapping the hardware round their little skulls that somehow manage to house a brain big enough to do everyday tasks.

Arh so you got an Eleaf, I could have sworn I posted a size comparison pic against an MVP2 a few pages back, it was a pink one, kind of hard to miss pmsl! So you like the iStick then? It packs a good punch for a little one doesn't it!

Not all of the groups are cloud makers by the rule of thumb. Some may grab a snap of themselves blowing a cloud at times but as more of a pun while most of the performers more or less are found on YouTube where the ones looking for "bragging rights"? are more apt to be found. Some are for posting deal and contests while are the wheeler dealer trade or sell by pm. A few want it kept simple at the beginner level so everybody can get in. And then you have the intermediary types as well as few news groups and some get into the science and scoff at the nonsense proganda the opponents blog.

With the iStick due to seeing the voltage raised along with the watts you tend to get the tanks warmer and producing more vapor. But you have to watch the voltage depending on what you have attached to keep from cooking some! Many of the 1.6ml clearomizers are disposables and only intended for eGo type 3.7v batteries while some will run upto 4.2v by factory specs. The little bugger does a good job however for it's size over lugging a bulky 3 battey box mod around with you. Too bad it wasn't set up like the MVP for separation of watts and volts however which would make it primo! Keep the volts down while cranking watts!

paulpicks21 said:

Oh and I can't believe it but the new innokin SVD 2.0 runs coils down to 0.5ohm! I wish I hadn't bought the vamo V6 now. But Christmas is coming lol.

Black Friday is coming even sooner while I suspect you won't find the latest seeing any large discounts this soon. The vendors will want to make their money first. One review mentioned it would like run at least close to $80 when out and nothing new about seeing various APVs run up over $100 at times! This is due the Evolv chip it in which brings the price up.

As for the V6 that's still a good one to have onhand even if you favor something else. It was after I passed the V2 along to someone since I went for the Groove II 3800mah battery that it let go and I then went with the V5 and then went spotting a price break for the VTR grabbed one of those due to being a replaceable battery type mod. For the best sub ohming however most will pick out a mech mod not one with any circuit card in it. You can then add in a wattage adjuster and crank things up a bit.

Do any of those juices have a "Born On" date, or date they were made?

I'm not sure about any of them in particular, I can tell you for a fact any juie with a Custard or Cream type base MUST steep a good while. And by that I mean it needs at least a good 4-6 weeks.
So perhaps some of them are fairly new and need to age a bit.

I know with ZampleBox I often get juices that are just a couple weeks old. If I let them sit a couple weeks longer, they taste much better. A couple I didn't like I ended up loving after they aged properly.

So don't discount them just yet. Let em age a bit.


It really is a taste and see thing though. There are some flavors you want to vape before they get to old. The fresher the better. And some just the opposite, the older the better.
Older the better seems to apply to mainly Custard and Tobacco in particular. They are the worst offenders for needing a significant steep time, a month or more, or as they call it a "Deep Steep Juice"
Cream based juices often need a couple to 3 weeks bare minimum and upwards.


I just mixed up a big 120ml batch of Strawberry Custard using Capellas concentrated Vanilla Custard,Sweet Strawberry, and TFAs Bavarian Cream.
At 1 week old its pretty tasty all ready, and i cant wait till it properly matures.

I made the same recipie (only 10ml) before and it wasnt too good. I tried it right aftyer making it and again a couple days later. I kinda forgot about it, and when I tested it at 6 weeks old it was amazing!!! So this time, I took into consideration the aging time, and made 120ml of it LOL. May make a second one too to start aging.
Obviously the little 10ml batch didnt last long so Im patiently waiting....
FWIW a custard seems to be ready when it turns really dark color, a dark orange-ish yellow. Its clear when first made, or a very slight yellow tint.