Any Vapers?

Get good devices then :)
Night Hawk can offer some good suggestions mostly because he has used so many

itaste mvp 2.0 is good but needs a different tank to be good nautilus mini
A year later and I'm sure many new devices have surfaced and mine still are kicking
I have 2 the above one and a inferno not great it does require a lot of cleaning but does work and did get me off cig's :)
The itaste was a backup and a daily user with awesome battery life and a lot easier to maintain.
But did need another tank

bej said:

Nighthawk -

Thank you for your suggestions. I'm trying to quit cold turkey after 60 years of sucking it in. Been five days and very minor bumps over this road. Again, appreciate your help.

Cold Turkey for 8 months solid back in 1980 having picked up one brand of menthols back in '77 and wasn't too hard to do. But at that time a little lady was the incentive but didn't and I ended up still working long hours and club hopping back when everybody lit up!

10-11yrs. ago I started running into bits and pieces of intel on smokeless and then electronic cigarettes I originally thought would be good for those gatherings when non smokers were mixed with smokers on holidays and occasions but that news back in Sept. 2012 of one of the SF members for a bit dumping a 4 pack a day habit was the break point! I was then pointed at places where vaping gear sold as well as looking up one brand I tried out but knew wasn't going to be the hump buster to keep it final!

ThrashZone said:

Night Hawk said:

I doubt you will see me stop vaping any time soon unless .

Unless you open a used vaping mod's store and sell them all
1000's.us in mod's spent sir :)

Cold turkey is tough and doomed to fail unless you receive a lucky dog award :)

I think the one thing that deters more then helps people spend less on the stuff that offers less and spend more time with the better gear is not seeing everyone who posts a YouTube video blowing clouds and then you hear: "well my Provari vv battery at 4.1v does the job!" without ever knowing that the increased vapor output can actually keep you vaping as it offers more of both flavor and vapor depending on the ejuice as well as the set up.

What I ended up with took time to find which is now far more commonly available being roughly 20-25w and even 40w or 70w on a 150w depending on tank and ejuice you put in! That plays a larger role that will vary from person to person. Then once you find that "just right" combination that works you find you are not looking for more so much and you then start "not spending" so much!

One example was going after a lot of new gear last fall into spring and now will hardly be looking for maybe a few new tanks and an extra mod compared to the first year or so. Presently it depends where I am and what I am doiing since I carry an iStick 50w or the latest MVP 3.0 Pro 60w model since both have the long life batteries while the iStick's 4400mah always seems to outlast the MVP's 4500mah battery.

The MVP 20W 20watt mod sits along with another iStick 50w when watch the tube as well as that first stand holding a Vamo 3-15w and the four Innokin iTaste VV(variable voltage) v3.0s 6-11w batteries despite the small 700mah have held up now for almost two full years.

The small 350, 400mah eGo type non variable batteries? seriously lack in quality along with the low voltage. BCC=Bottom Coil Clearomizer, BDC=Bottom Dual coil Clearomizer, not so much for the BVDC=Bottom Vertical Dual Coil but the BVC=Bottom Vertical Coil in tanks fare better then clearomizers it seem. Forget any CE2-CE5 stuff as that is lower end quick sell for eGo type batteries while SMOK has good but still a bit cheaply made tanks. Aspire has outshined a number of brands with the Triton being ideal for those who would otherwise drill additional air intake holes.

bej said:

Someway, somehow, I need to get the Lucky Dog Award.....
Failure is not an option.....

You have to "Want To Quit"! You have to think "This has to be Done Period"! And you also need to realize "Nicotine Addiction is a Farse blown out of proportion by the Media"!

And better not eat any tomatoes or eggplant if you have any concern over "can't get the nicotine down fast enough"! I went 0% nic before the date I finished off the last carton on. Did you know it would tank about 50mg all the way up over 110mg for the system to absorb the same amount of nicotine from an ecig as it would from a tobacco product?!

Then consider the rest of the actual science showing that nicotine can help for those with memory loss problems and is equal to about what Caffeine is in a cup of fresh brewed coffee. Some teas actually see more Caffeine then most brands of coffee sold!

PG or Propylene Glycol not the other forms of Glycol broadcast in the negative blog campaigns but the one of two main ingredients besides flavorings and nicotine being optional was first used back during WW II during the Influenza outbreak sprayed in hospital tents to sanitize the air! It has also been in use with Immediate Asthmatic inhalers since the 50s and you wonder why some with COPD who smoked are noticing vast improvements when turning to vaping. Follow the science not the Crock and B stories being floated! That will be a help in reaching your goal as well as your need to examine the various hardwares now seen compared to just a couple of years ago!

ThrashZone said:

Get good devices then :)
Night Hawk can offer some good suggestions mostly because he has used so many

itaste mvp 2.0 is good but needs a different tank to be good nautilus mini
A year later and I'm sure many new devices have surfaced and mine still are kicking
I have 2 the above one and a inferno not great it does require a lot of cleaning but does work and did get me off cig's :)
The itaste was a backup and a daily user with awesome battery life and a lot easier to maintain.
But did need another tank

They came out with an iTaste v4 model with either a 1000mah or 1100mah battery I was considering but the 700s are still in good shape for those extras. The MVP 3.0 is the 30w model but still sees the 2600mah while the Pro came out to compete with the iStick 50w and 100w models. The 100w take a pair of 18650s however and I have the 30w DovPo E-LVT, All Stainless ZNA 50 50w, and 150w wooden box mod now in a large leather carrying case with the extra 20w and 10w iSticks and one 50w along with spare 18650 batteries and simply a place to store things when not in use except for the DovPo on one stand and the ZNA 50 and MVP 3.0 Pro on the other mod stand on the PC desk here

I spend enough over the time gradually getting into the better stuff as it was first being seen which is where the expense came in over now simply being able to pick and choose! Going with tanks that can handle 40w, 50w, or higher even while only starting off with a 20w or 30w mod is a smart move while some will end up running mechanical mods and rebuilding their own coils.

Personally the progress being seen with the newer tank designs especially with sub ohm tanks now able to handle higher output it can work well. But initially transitioning over from smoke to vapor is a project in itself at times! At least now however a growing number of Cardiovascular specialists have stepped upto the plate regarding the potential life saving potentials seen for people who switch! Simply type MOVEorganization.org on any search engine to arrive at the home site.

That movie exposing all the corruption and political influencing seen by Big Pharmaceutical interests will be out something during the first part of 2016 which should interest a good number of people since it not effects those who still do or did already quite but non smokers as well as it gets into how Big Pharma has been using the public as guinea pigs all along for new products which are not fully tested in labs first before going out on the market.

There's a big joke about Chantrix floating the social networks about that one and how it can drive you to certain demise?! The movie itself however gets into a large variety of things as the film crew travels to various places around the globe.

I sorta disagree on the Provari part.
The reason is, to this day My Provari + Kayfun Lite setup, is still to this day my favorite and my go to set up. I use it 75% of the time especially when out and about.

No, it doesn't create huge clouds like the sub ohm builds do, but has great flavor and very good vapor production. At least for 50/50 or 60vg/40PG blends. Any higher VG than 60 and it can sometimes have issues wicking if not wicked just right.
In fact, its the set up that really got my off tobacco and on to vaping.


I just picked up a Lemo Drop. Actually like it quite well. At first I built like a Kayfun and it was lacking big time.
Then built a .8 Ohm parallel with 28gauge and its great.
Still a bit to much vapor for most uses.

But Im not huge on sub ohming TBH. Plus most of those builds just guzzle the E-juice.
I get just as much satisfaction, if not more, from my Provari/Kayfun builds and use a fraction of the juice to do it.

Plus I dont like blowing huge clouds in public or around others that don't smoke/vape. And it irritates me when others do it without considering the environment they are in at the time. But that's just me.


This is actually quite interesting , and really sums up the conclusion I came to as well. He explains much better than I can.

After 60 years and several false quits, I stopped. Used "Chantix". It is expensive and requires a prescription. It's been three years and I some times wake up in the night trying to flip ashes. I have decided it will never go away. I think you just learn to cope with it.

Too many wild side effects.
So many with some meds I forget what it's supposed to help cure

You should see what others have to say about Chantrix! Too many frown on that stuff for sure being another "We'll use the gullable public as the guinea pigs to further develop this one!"




Even with the face blotted out you get the general idea of the reputation Big Pharma is getting! Ineffective and even potentially dangerous anti-smoking or smoking cessation products that don't work! This is why the upcoming film due out in early 2016 blows the lid off of a lot of stuff! "A BILLION LIVES" being the title for that one.



A Billion Lives - Documentary Film Announcement

I didn't need any chemicals here to quit but had been looking for a non smoke alternative besides pills to control allergy attacks! Vaping menthol flavors solved the need for menthol smoke and no longer needing the stench of cleaning ash trays! Within a few months time the person who started up the ejuice business as well as my findings revealed that going from 24mbg of nicotine to 0% made absolutely no difference other then seeing a higher percentage of flavorings as far as the actual end result.

The compulsion to smoke is the hand to mouth repetition seen as well as the experience of inhaling tobacco flavored smoke while vaping replaces smoke with vapor to eliminate the tar, carbon monoxide, Cadmium, Lead, and thousands of other elements uncluding the 68 known carcihnogens and by the way The Truth about Cancer a 9 part web cast is running at this moment.

Episode 1: The True History of Chemotherapy & The Pharmaceutical Monopoly - See more at: https://go2.thetruthaboutcancer.com/....Pvic4yuN.dpuf

(read notation below)

Just heard from "A Billion Lives" on FB after posting the link there. That came out of the clear blue!

October 8 at 2:33pm · Edited ·

A documentary film about vaping & the tragic corruption leading to ‪#‎ABillionLives‬ lost. Coming in 2016.

19,823 Views

A Billion LivesJune 30 ·
Together we can change the world. ‪#‎ABillionLives‬ cannot be ignored.
Please share.

You and 2 others like this.

Comments


A Billion Lives Thanks for all the shares Dave! It means a lot to us...especially now that Facebook is censoring us...

Dave:
I think your efforts are being blocked due to Big $$$ putting their two cents in! You have to expect there will be opposition when trying to get actual facts out there. It's still going to be uphill regardless of how you look at things however since they want to keep their holds on things!
Facebook isn't the only place I have been sharing at either! Try regular vaping as well as pc forums!
(SF as well as a vaping site I frequent)
Another web cast has a 9 part series going now which gets into how Big Pharma has prevented doctors from suggesting alternative treatments for cancer knowing Chemotherapy kills! Some 97% end up dead while other treatments without radiation are not being allowed by "Corporate Greed"!

(Notation: A 9 part series of Youtube web cast 2hr. segments with experts from various countries regarding the devastating consequences of having only Chemotherapy available in the so called "civilized" countries run by Big $$$ in contrast to alternative therapies that don't cause harm but can see results.)

I am pretty stable person (hee hee).

Apparently some 500 or more didn't feel the same way as you do from the hearsay about that one. The tv spots caution: "If you have any thoughts about .... discontinue immediately and contact your doctor!" as if they can then turn around and watch the "Quack"? prescribe some other useless commodity.

That Part #1 of 9 total segments on how Big Pharma prevents doctors from recommending anything but Chemotherapy that ends up killing 97% of those who are treated by it went on to interview various doctors who stated they would lose their license to practice if not pushing Chemo on cancer patients when Chemo is a cause! The treatment not only effects the cancerous cells but turns healthy cell cancerous! Other alternative therapies found to work are banned! That's the monopoly Big Pharma tries with smoking cessation products and pressing legislators to ban or impose restrictions on vaping.

In one W.MA. township back in 2013 the Board of Health Dept. tried banning everything and had to end the public meeting fast when tempers soared. Massachusetts Town's Proposed Tobacco Sale Ban Meeting Ends Minutes After Starting | NECN

That was one year ago this month and as a result of the outrage and accusations of infringement of civil liberties as well as snugging out the livelihoods of local business since people who do smoke will be more apt to stop at local convenience stores and gas stations there they ended up dropping the proposal entirely. https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...kUL/story.html

Someone in Attleboro another MA. small city states that community's Dept. of Health is now working on a total ban as well one year after that where I advised bringing that video to their attention. People have to make their own choices on just what they will end up doing as far as continuing to light up or dump smoke entirely.

The excuses people offer of "I can't do it!" simply indicates they are not ready or actually do not want to! If you do want to you make the decision and stick with it. That simply comes right back to mind set and will power in order to break a long time habit. Vaping is the alternate method for hand to mouth delivery when opting to see nic in ejiuce.

But never dismiss the possible need to upgrade away from cigarette look alikes to something like sub ohm tanks simply because you don't want to make clouds. I vape here with sub ohms without cloud making but simply get a much improved vape from them over that old CE2-4, 5 cheapie. I still have a few vv/vw type eGo batteries in use while the main device will be a 50w box mod like the iStick or ZNA 50. I have a 20w wood body SMOK Vamo Fire APV with a 5ml Nautilus sitting on top of that and not a sub ohm just a good brand and type of tank.

Here I still end up seeing a cough at times but mainly from the effect PG has on drying things up where I get some mucous build up I end up needing to clear out. And that isn't from chain vaping either since at times it may hours before I even take a few puffs mainly to control the sinus activity! Post nasal drippage, sneezing now to be more likely any dust stirred up while blasting the case out has never been any problem I don't pin anything on the furball either(golden lab/retriever).

The one thing I can say is gone here for sure is that old tightening in the chest feeling that was becoming quite noticeable by the time I did end the regular habit! But for the same reason I would end up stepping out more frequently to light one up I no longer have to physically look after that person anymore. That was someone who had to use a stoma pouch not the most pleasant plastic bag to be emptied or replaced! Another health factor however having been a former smoker was CO2 build up from the decreased ability to expell carbon to breath in fresh O2 oxygen. They misdiagnosed that for bladder leakage and dehydration the first time around until hospitalized again the following summer!

Now was the lack of ability to expell CO2 from previously having been a smoker is still an unknown while a chief suspect! That tar can do a lot of damage that you inhale in from smoke also being the leading cause for smoker's lung cancer besides all the other additives and toxins found in smoke!

ATTENTION ALL VAPERS! READ THIS! CASAA Blog

Back to CASAA.org MainBack to Blog Home


Tuesday, October 27, 2015

National Call to Action: Tell the White House to urge FDA to re-work the deeming regulations so that life-saving vapor products can remain on the market!


(Please note: At the time of this writing, changes to the FDA deeming regulations have not been published. CASAA’s assessment of the FDA’s proposed regulations is based on the version that was published in 2014. That having been said, it will take nothing short of a complete overhaul of the proposed deeming rule in order to allow nearly even 10% of vapor products currently on the market to remain on the market.)

Today, Tuesday, October 27th, longtime vaping opponent the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids (CTFK) has organized a call-in action to urge President Obama to put pressure on the FDA to finalize their Tobacco Deeming Regulations. What CTFK and others are failing to mention is that if the deeming regulations are enacted as written, 99.9% of the vapor products currently on the market will be gone within two to four years. Make no mistake, the current proposed regulations will have a devastating impact on consumers and businesses alike; not to mention the obvious damage to public health.

see blog page for more