Windows 10 worse than windows 8

I give up Kari you only see what you want to see sir.

ThrashZone said:

I give up Kari you only see what you want to see sir.

I am sorry but the only way I can take that is that you really cannot produce any examples of these "search issues".

I am always willing to listen reason, always willing to learn, I am always willing to admit I might be wrong. That is exactly why I would like to get some examples. It is quite impossible to have a decent discussion when someone states something I really believe is not valid, I counter argument it asking for feedback and examples and only get an answer "I give up", rather than real factual examples.

But, as you wish.

I've given too many examples already if you missed them please read the replies again slowly.
I'm not repeating myself again.
Cheers.

ThrashZone said:

I've given too many examples already if you missed them please read the replies again slowly.
I'm not repeating myself again.
Cheers.

I have read your posts in this thread several times and the only thing which could even remotely be called "search issues" is your complaints that when searching from Taskbar, the results include Bing online results.

So, fourth time: DO NOT USE IT! Do not search from Taskbar search. Disable Cortana, use Explorer search for local searches and your browser for web searches.

That problem solved, do you have any more issues I could help you with?

Old joke patient said doctor my arm hurts when I raise it
Doctor said don't do that = cured here's the bill

That joke is not a very good metaphor to represent this discussion.

You are complaining about something which has a real simple solution: stop using it, Windows has a build-in alternative, a search function which does not present Bing online search results among your local searches. You get accurate local search results using the Explorer search with absolutely no traces of Bing, you know it, but admitting it and starting to use it instead of the Bing search you couldn't complain. Ergo, you continue using Bing in order to have something to complain.

It's like complaining "I do not like the black background in Windows" when you have selected not to use a desktop wallpaper or a bright color but instead use a single color black background. The solution is there, change the background color or set a desktop wallpaper. "No because then I had nothing to complain!".

I love 7. I always said that it is the best OS that I have used. 8 came, I tried and rejected. Then 10 came. I tried and stayed.

Not 100% true .... I came back to 7. After using 10 my darling OS (that is 7) feels like a primitive one to me. Only one thing apart (that is the default theme) 10 is much more acceptable than 7 to me.

I still have 7 installed in my laptop. May be it will also go after the release of the RTM.

But that is only me. If anybody dont like 10, they may continue with 7, there is no problem. I did not like 8, but did not hate that one, because nobody is forcing me to use that OS that I dont like. That is totally on me. I will decide which OS i will use, based on my own choice.

Windows 10 will rule, as XP did, and 7 did. Ronaldo was great, I was his big fan. But his time is over. And Ronaldo is great, too. I support him out and out.

Archie, What you say is that everybody should use what they like - and that is fair. I was happy with Vista, W7 is great and I like 8.1. I guess ultimately I will use W10.

But the discussion here is about the general direction that MS is taking. The one system for all devices, the dependency on the cloud and the automatic (hidden) actions that are being taken without user consent.

Kari keeps saying that you can make yourself independent of all of that and operate in you own little patch. For some things that's true, for others it is not plus you need a good amount of skill to disconnect yourself from the designed path.

And at the end we will all be the lemmings that follow the leader. I now understand why the Linux people like their freedom of choice.

I understand what you are saying, Wolfgang. :)

I think Linux needs more skills than windows to do a good amount of necessary things. :) Sudo.

As a merely average user, I find that Windows 10 is better for me. It is an overall feeling ... hard to pinpoint which part I like the most and why. What I have noticed that it performs better than windows 7 in essentially identical conditions.

Cloud based computing is not very possible with the poor internet speed that I can avail, still OneDrive is not a big problem with that little speed. When something is uploaded there, it is as easily accessible as it is in my HDD.

About the actions without user's consent, I really dont have an idea which are those. Rather I am sometimes annoyed as it keeps asking for permissions when I know what I am doing.

I also have the way to use a local account, so OneDrive, XBox, Skype and other similar things can easily be dropped. If I need to use those in local accounts, I have that way, too.

From another perspective, the most popular gadget of this time is an android/microsoft phone/tab. We use those devices everyday as always logged on using a google/microsoft account, for gaming, facebook, email etc. A windows phone even save the phonebook contracts as hotmail contracts!! So using a microsoft account on a desktop or laptop PC will not be a very big issue to the majority of the users. They are already habituated with this practice.

Microsoft is a business concern. They will try to maximize their revenue by keeping users connected with them, by making them use the apps from their stores (as it is done by android and apple). If they dont do it, they will earn less revenue than their competitors; which will have a big bad impact on the concern in turn. So what they are doing is good for them.

As a customer I have to decide whether it is good for me or not. Let us use the preview and judge it ourselves. It is not necessary that all our judgements will coincide. Buying their product is on me only. If I dont like their product or their way, I may keep with the old one by them that I liked; or even I may use another alternative, like Linux as you said. I really dont need to remain as a dissatisfied customer.

Well, W10 is work in progress. So I will withhold my final judgement on the content until RTM. I am sure it will be an excellent OS for a lot of people.

Right now we can only discuss the general direction that it is taking. And there I have my reservations. I am a 'private' person and don't like my stuff to be spilled all over the web. And I really do not want all my devices to be synced because they all serve their own purposes.

The other day I set up Chrome on a new PC and the next thing I saw was that my bookmarks from one Chrome in one of my Linux machines was synced to this new Windows machine without asking me. That's the kind of nuisance I do not want. I am sure there was a setting to avoid that, but I did not investigate - I just wanted Chrome as an additional browser on that new PC.

Or the example I gave earlier where my new 11" laptop was automatically device encrypted because I was signed into my MS account. And since this is something new for Instant Go enabled 8.1 devices, I had the hardest time to find out what was going on. But I finally managed and wrote the whole procedure down.