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Windows 7: Should I Get Windows 10?

31 Jul 2015   #11

Win 10 Pro 64

Yes it ROCKS
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22 Aug 2015   #12
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Men of few words :)
You can still join the insiders program and try it before you replace your 7 install
You can also run it on a VM or plan a dual boot with 7! There are some options available for trying 10 as well as still keeping 7 around! Things to know first?

1)First install of 10 to be a free install? Upgrade over existing or as was done here over temp install of 7 with SP1 still required.

2)Upgrade installs whether downloading the Media Creation Tool or waiting for the download through the Windows updates can prove to be buggy where a second repair install by way of seeing a 10 upgrade over 10 to repair the incomplete initial upgrade or once the upgrade is activated perform a clean install to either a separate partition or drive.

3)When going to upgrade the first time around or when planning a clean install review the guides for this over at Ten Forums as that can save you time and a world of headaches!

4) First backup all of your important files if planning to upgrade over the existing copy of 7 and be sure any additional hard drives without any OS on them are "Unplugged"! as it was fast learned here during the first failed attempts at getting the downloaded and saved to drive ISO disk images written to usb flash drive made bootable by both the MC tool and 3rd party program wouldn't see 10 go on! The boot files ended up on one of the two storage drives that had been since removed and the temp install/recovery folders on the other storage resulting in not seeing 10 go on until review of the clean install guide.

5) When going to check on system hardware compatibility the Windows logo icon will detect and record the hardware information for you and indicate that your system is compatible if you are going to be able to see 10 go on. When clicking to reserve a free copy expect the first of two emails to indicate it has been reserved and a second to come later suggesting not waiting for several days or weeks with a link to the download page for the Media Creation tools which can see an immediate online upgrade, skip to the next option of creating a USB Installation Key with a 4gb flash drive, skip to the next again to see the option to burn to dvd or save as and iso download.

Those screens come after you have selected 10 Home or Pro, 32bit or 64bit or the combination 32/64 download which will not burn to disk but will require at least an 6gb flash drive if you can find one? while 8gb are common place. That's due to the nearly 6gb size of the combined iso download! And of course if you had previously heard that Windows 8 saw the Start menu replaced by the Metro screen you won't have to worry about getting some 3rd party Start menu replacement program as 10 has seen the return of the Start menu!

The new version also has some other interesting features being brought in while performance is close to what you see in 7 due to the new reduction of memory used per process efforts. While 10 is slightly larger to support the dual platform OS strategy of Desktop/Mobile it's not a "resource hog" while the installation takes as long as a rule as it took Vista and 8 didn't get to try 8.1 here at all while 7 on average is only 20 minutes or so seeing the first restart at 12 minutes.

Compatibility? That will always be a problem for any newer version while most everything besides the next newer build for your antivirus or firewall program will likely be a must since 10 is three versions newer then 7. Yet an old Legacy/9x pc game goes right onto the 64bit 10 and runs as usual?! Got to hand it to MS there!
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22 Aug 2015   #13

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-BIT

In my opinion, YOU SHOULD. But, not now because of fewer software compatibility. You should wait for a atleast a year before you should upgrade.
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22 Aug 2015   #14
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64

The backward compatibility for most things is already there and the 10 installer will locate and install not only the device drivers for video, sound, board, and old tv tuner card that only got upto 7 drivers automatically. With the tuner card it was only the main app I had to be concerned with getting installed.

That, the sound card audio console, and antivirus software were what initially wouldn't go on due to the buggy upgrade that got fixed! A couple of other small apps like System Info for Windows needed to see a newer release while Steam and other pc games went right on without a fuss!

For the most part the changes have been gui related more so then the compatibility issues that were common problems before 7 not afterwards. But as far as the question of should you or shouldn't you not the answer has to be in what interest you have as far as looking it over or replacing 7 entirely if not using an alternate option for either a dual boot or VM project for a fast look?

As for the Inside program I still have the account that was set up for 8 when the CP builds first came along but can no longer locate any download links for the unreleased builds at this time. You have to go through the Start>Settings>Updates&Security>Advanced options in 10 in order to select the "Get Insider Builds" option after 10 is on that is.

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22 Aug 2015   #15

windows 7

but is it fast.... and no bugs....i will kept windows 7 it's fast...
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22 Aug 2015   #16
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64

The installation of Windows 8 as well as Vista, 8.1, and now 10 will never be as fast as the 20 minutes average seen with 7! Where the gain will be seen is that while the new version is a bit larger it won't chew up as much memory as Vista would have since 7 brought in the WinMin kernel. 10 is geared at seeing less memory use per individual process where you have a ton of things running and still end up less memory then seen with previous versions.

Different hardware as well as software situations tend to vary where one says it faster, the next says slower at boot, and another then says it runs about the same as 7 or 8. From what I have been noticing here with the third upgrade having been seen to is that while it may seem to take longer to arrive at the 10 desktop the hard drive led slows down sooner. For 7 the led is steady for a bit after arriving at the desktop still loading things into ram.

The option here fpr 10 was simple. I'll take a freebie when I can but! dual boot it with 7 like I did the 8 Customer Preview to see how stable it is in beta form up until it becomes RTM. I didn't get much time with it in Tech Preview form while so far none of the problems seen with the 7/8 CP dual boot have come up while I still needed to run the DiskCheck tool on the second system set up with another 10/7 dual boot when the prompting was seen in contrast to how both 7 and 8 CP failed to even reach the desktop and both at the time needed to be cleaned up from disk errors preventing normal bootups! So far none at all on two different systems running 10 along with the 7 Ultimate edition on the main and 7 Pro on the second.
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22 Aug 2015   #17

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit

Yea I haven't seen anything in 10 that is worth rushing into a upgrade
Since all my 7's are home premiums I can't see going to 10 Home there's way too many missing items I would need to have 10 bearable mainly group policy to block the most annoying parts of 10 = web search #1 Cortana #2
Those alone make 10 Home a no go.

Doing 2 upgrades 7 to 10 and then upgrade that to Pro is way too much +99.99us for Pro
Seems more straight forward to just buy 64 bit 10 pro and be done with it for when I feel the need to do it = no time soon I believe prices will drop eventually
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22 Aug 2015   #18
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64

Well one thing you can do is actually unpin the Cortana item in Start and hide the Search icon seen on the task bar which is tied to Cortana as the new search engine being brought it! Edge is practically still a beta browser replacing IE 11 there while the other things you may not be aware of is the new support for virtualization even in the Home edition!

When you don't have a second monitor to work with what do you do? Add a new desktop!

You will notice that little + plus sign on the bottom right corner. And how about those times when your single display is a bit crowded?

That other new Task manager button on the task bar second to the Search can condense things down a bit and ...

once you have clicked on the button once the single desktop is full in order to move something over to the next desktop...

you're going to find out you have room for expansion since you can add quite a few desktops as long as you have the memory and not running at the 1gb minimum for ram but a good 4gb to start.

And there you have it! Something not seen previous in Windows besides trying to run more things on VMs.

To close up an extra desktop the task is simple as well by simply doing what you would do with any explorer window click the X.

Now if I found myself in a situation where I could no longer run 7 and had to pick between 8, 8.1, or 10 which do you think I would go with? The answer is obvious since 8 was a sad case to start with and not how MS should have brought in the new dual platform type OS by simply stripping out a lot there! And so far the only actual buggyness found with 10 happens during the upgrade type install required but not seen later after a full clean install!

If you upgrade from a previous version(7, 8, or 8.1 only) especially here over a temp install of 7 in order to set up a dual boot of both versions the activation servers keep a record of the hardware profile and genuine Windows when automatically activating Windows without entering a product key. Afterwards when performing a clean install 10 will be found activated by the time you reach the desktop for the first time once again.

The upgrading, security updates, and any patches will come while the upgrade remains free until next July. Originally I was planning 10 as the second OS to 7 but found the two actually play well together in a dual boot compared what was seen when trying this out with the 8 Customer Preview nightmare! Both 7 and 8 CP crashed until the DiskCheck tool cleaned up both drives and 8 saw a PC Refresh! The first saw 8 added into the 7 BCD while the refresh saw 7 added into 8's and still the two clashed! Something else to mention.
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23 Aug 2015   #19

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit

Multiple desktop is only new to windows
Linux has had that for a long time and that's not in my view any sort of definitive reason to switch to 10.

But removing the search box is not what I'm talking about Winkey+s is needed
Cortana is not nor is any type of web search suggestions and those can only be blocked with group policy = Pro version.

Maybe in a year.
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23 Aug 2015   #20
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64

New to Windows was the point! With "any" new version even with 7 things went well while waiting a full year for SP to arrive. 7 didn't have the urgent need for SP1 like the previous two versions did however! Plus 10 is bringing in something else along with itt namely the option to test preview builds while previously they would never be automatically delivered to you while you still need to be in the Windows Insider program to test and submit feedback.

This is another reason why anyone considering a look at 10 may either want to participate there if not set up a dual boot see a Insider type virtual drive or run 10 on a VM which doesn't involved nothing more then creating a new vhd file when already having VM Player or VirtualBox onhand. This was one reason for originally planning the dual boot on the second OS with 7 still being the host after examining the Tech Preview months ago and knowing it would be worth the effort! A vast contrast between 8 and 10!
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