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Windows 7: i hate w10.

24 May 2017   #111
drankinatty

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
Windows 1 Forever
Windows 2 Forever
Windows 3 Forever
Windows 3.1 Forever
I've seen this included in a couple of posts in this thread, and I must point out it is not historically accurate. For those of us building and running PCs in the '89 - '90s timeframe it was:

  • DOS 3.3 (33Meg Partition Size Limit, 1M of RAM was more than you would ever use and cost $400)
  • DOS 4.1 (Yay! I can use the whole 120Meg drive in a single-partition)
  • Windows 286
  • Windows 386
  • Windows 3.0 (Yes with Trumpet Winsock)
  • Windows 3.1 (Yes, still installed on 1.44M floppies, Word 1.0f came out here)
  • ...
There may have been something codenamed Windows1 or Windows2, but you didn't see those in boxes.
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24 May 2017   #112
drankinatty

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
How strange that you use old calculator like the one in Windows 7 as an example. So this Windows 7 Calculator is "eye candy" to you:

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... and this, Windows 10 Calculator is "generic vanilla - yuk":

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(Screenshot shows native Windows 10 Calculator in build 16199.)

I have to say I totally disagree!

Kari
It is not the 'eye-candy' that is the point (I also note you chose standard as opposed to programmer mode). It is a usability night-mare to those trying to work on smaller screens like laptops, etc.. Notice the HUGE difference in screen real-estate the Win10 web-ized monstrosity requires compared to the properly sized Win7 counterpart. (where there was actually thought put into the needed size, as opposed to just how the heck it manages to render itself on screen X). That was the point in "what has been lost" in addition to the polish, it is actual thought put into managing screen real-estate that has suffered.

I can use either, one sits nicely in the corner and doesn't obscure what I need it for, the other takes up 25% of my screen forcing me to alt-tab back-and-forth to do the same thing. That goes directly to 'usability' and a lack of 'human-factors' understanding from an efficiency standpoint. That is what I hope is addressed in the future after this experiment in cross-platform UI design settles down. (and maybe thow some eye-candy for the window decore )
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24 May 2017   #113
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
I use this calculator works great
Code:
http://www.moffsoft.com/downloads.htm
Request Rejected
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25 May 2017   #114
matfx

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Yep I doubt 8 or 8.1 ever saw 10% market share lol
Win 8/8.1 shrinking.
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25 May 2017   #115
Kari

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by drankinatty View Post
It is not the 'eye-candy' that is the point.
You specifically used Calculator as an example of vanilla "yuk" looks:

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by drankinatty View Post
But this is about the looks. Win10 is fine if your the type that doesn't mind every application looking like a generic vanilla web-page -- but yuk. just compare it calculator to previous releases is about as good an example as any. Don't get me wrong, I don't want form over function, but when we have had stunning form for over a decade in desktop look, Win10 is somewhat of a let down and feels like a big step backwards in user-interface design.

When I proved you wrong, you are trying with this one:

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by drankinatty View Post
(I also note you chose standard as opposed to programmer mode). It is a usability night-mare to those trying to work on smaller screens like laptops, etc.. Notice the HUGE difference in screen real-estate the Win10 web-ized monstrosity requires compared to the properly sized Win7 counterpart. (where there was actually thought put into the needed size, as opposed to just how the heck it manages to render itself on screen X). That was the point in "what has been lost" in addition to the polish, it is actual thought put into managing screen real-estate that has suffered.

That went wrong, too! If you want me to use Programmer mode Calculator as an example, here it is:

i hate w10.-2017-05-25_19h45_17.jpg

Windows 7 Programmer Calculator on left, minimum size 164,124 pixels (423 * 388). Windows 10 Programmer Calculator on right, 160,000 pixels used (320 * 500). You lost again

BTW, as W10 Calculator in programmer mode is almost 25% narrower than W7 one, it sits much nicer on corner of small displays. With less "screen real-estate" used.

Trying to save you from one more embarrassing argument: please do not post now about how you meant unit conversion mode instead of programmer mode as in that mode the W7 Calculator loses even more:

i hate w10.-2017-05-25_19h46_22.jpg

Kari


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25 May 2017   #116
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

As they used to say on TV

Busted
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30 May 2017   #117
Tlibaomx

Win 7 Pro/64-bit
 
 
Tried Win 10 For One Week, Went Back to Win 7

I couldn't do it. It just pissed me off too much having Win 10 in my home, on my computer. I spent a whole week trying to modify the software to minimum invasiveness, but for every two things I uninstalled, there ten files that required even more research before determining its true function. I'm telling you, I've never seen so much bloat within a Windows program, not to mention the arrogance in some of the names they've used, reminding the user that they had no control over their intrusiveness.

Well, yesterday, while bingeing the 7th season of "The Walking Dead" I installed a home version of Win 7 (my version of Drano), went for a clean install, then upgraded to Win 7 Pro, and life has been good ever since. No, I don't trust Win10 recovery/reinstall settings. If they have become so bold as to hide their intrusiveness in plain sight, who knows what could be left behind when installed using their methods? It's insane. I will admit I have a much better handle on Microsoft's intrusion with Win7, but it does require staying on top of it. Saturdays are my days to do that.

I'm staying with Win7, because I am convinced there are too many people who are pushing back, and at some point Microsoft will have to make some choices, and so will the consumer. In the meantime, I don't my version of Windows on the internet. I know it's crazy, but I need to protect my content, and right now, their "Trusted Installer" seems to be working more for them and less for me.

It'd be real interesting to know how many of Microsoft's people actually hang out here, reading taking notes. Sure, they could be surveying for the purposes of making a better product, but with the consumer on one side of the fence, and Microsoft, Google and all the third-party peons on the other side, there's no question as to whom they're making a better product for, and to whom it will hurt in the long run.
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20 Jun 2017   #118
Jake1702

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Golden View Post


No it didn't, you did. You screwed it by dual-booting with Ubuntu which places the GRUB boot loader in a higher priority that the Windows loader. When you tried to roll back to Windows 7, it got confused about where to write the Windows boot loader. Thus you ended up with a corrupted master boot record - a classic 0x7E BSOD.

Next time to post a BSOD thread, read the instructions - that way you might get a quicker reply.

BSOD after downgrade. (0x0000007E) - Windows 7 Help Forums
I know this is a late reply. Sorry.

Not sure if you yourself read the BSOD posting instructions, but if you do you see it requires running a program. Tell me, how was I to do that if the system was unbootable? Not trying to be rude, just saying to pay a little more attention to small details.
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3 Weeks Ago   #119
Lisa Larkin

Windows 7 64
 
 

I changed my device few years ago. I think that's a better solution
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