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Windows 7: i hate w10.

05 Feb 2017   #11
pippox0

Windows7 Pro
 
 

Hi,
I'm still using Xp and windows7 and i don't want to switch to w10.
No way, and i don't want to be forced by microsoft ...

See Ya
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06 Feb 2017   #12
EgiRaZoRZ

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - Heavily tweaked xDark v5.2 Deluxe Edition (Ultrafast!!)
 
 

Spent years making Windows 7 perfect, based on various support on the Net. I have gigabytes of accumulation - info, software and MODs specifically for Seven because it is FAST, shiny, and it's possible to make everything work on it. (To my own surprise, after the faraway Vista debacle!) I'm so lazy I didn't even compile my own custom Windows 7 build yet (!!), too much work to do lol, but I haven't seen a system smoother than mine as of yet, with the tons of optimizations applied (let alone possible). It's not about pride, I'm saying it's possible to do. But Windows 10 shows me how much of it is now IMpossible, broken, hidden or plain removed. (Undocumented tweaks anyone?) Even worse, all my friends have Windows 10 and I don't even want to visit them anymore, because their computers are the slowest, 'unoptimizable' pieces of skunk I've ever had nightmares about. I feel like a 5 year old kid when I see their machines. It's insulting after years of achievements I'd call professional. (Mine, yours, and Microsoft's) I've never seen such amateur software (myself being kind of a script kiddie). Aside from the fragility of a system that can break because of its own medicine, it reeks of control at every corner, limitations, brainwashing, removal of useful features and everything in between that's manipulative Evil-Corp behavior. On top of a nice, sleek... piece of.. colored texture??? - WHAT THE HELL is this ugly design?! After Windows 7, seriously this? ....why on Earth?
The future is here. They think I don't see it. They give you something new in the task manager, but they take away the most useful that's been everywhere else for years. And what's that LAG? Am I being watched? "No offense", but I feel it moronic to install a huge piece of spyware on my AMD machine.


Now why would I ever work on a Windows 10 O/S optimization..? In a year I should finally be able to glue together years of research into an ISO. I can't believe Windows 7 will be retro by then. Windows 10 looks like old garbage compared to the custom Windows 7 look I use, and again all these performance tweaks mean I'll have to build a superjet out of dry dirt again, if I ever get to Windows 10 - sounds like impossible. I have no idea how long I'll be able to use Windows 7

Looks like I'll spend the year trying to put the best of Windows 7 in a "sealed can", and I'll make sure it's 3000 times better than the nightmares I've seen.

The Admirable, Miserable Egi-RaZoRZ.
(first post xD)
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06 Feb 2017   #13
poorguy

Linux Mint 18 Xfce (32bit) / Windows 7 Professional (64bit)
 
 

Hello All,

I haven't been on a Windows Computer for over 2 years as I migrated away from Microsoft as I just didn't care for the direction Microsoft was going with Windows 8/8.1 or Windows 10.

I was cleaning out my electronics shop and ran across my Windows 7 computer which I had set back when I migrated to Linux.
I cleaned and dusted it and decided to connect it and WOW so much had changed in 2 + yrs away from Windows 7 OS.
I finally figured out the update rollup boy what is that all about but I did get my desktop 100% updated and so here I am.

I see Windows 10 is for the most still causing grief for some and still hated by others.
I guess I will keep this Windows 7 desktop up and running since Windows 7 is supported until 2020 and also there are some things that Windows does do better than Linux.

The PoorGuy
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06 Feb 2017   #14
Lee

Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11
 
 

I read how folks just hate windows 10, and to my dismay have yet to figure out why. . .. . .I run three computers, 1) iMac 28" 5K with OS X Sierra, 2) Windows 10, and 3) Windows 7. I also have a HP 2 in 1 with Windows 10. Now the Windows 10 machine blows away the windows 7 in all arenas. . .. That not to say 7 isn't good, because it is, but as far as the two windows OSes go it really doesn't matter which one I use they both run all the windows software I have without a problem, however, the Mac on that beautiful screen is still my OS of Choice. . .
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06 Feb 2017   #15
poorguy

Linux Mint 18 Xfce (32bit) / Windows 7 Professional (64bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lee View Post
I read how folks just hate windows 10, and to my dismay have yet to figure out why. . .
I don't hate Windows 10 what I hate is what Microsoft does to the end-users who use Widows 10.

Microsoft wants to have full control of your computer and then leaches your personal information by the installation of privacy intrusive updates which is then sold for advertisement purposes to give you a better web experience.

I'm believing that one.

Microsoft claims to scrub the sensitive personal information but I find that very hard to believe.

Yes I understand that all of this is in the EULA which I read and that is one of the reasons I migrated to Linux so I would have full control of what information is let out over the WWW.

I believe people should use what OS works best for them and also which OS they are most comfortable using.
Windows is a good OS and there are certain things it does better than other OSs do.
The PoorGuy
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07 Feb 2017   #16
Lee

Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poorguy View Post
I don't hate Windows 10 what I hate is what Microsoft does to the end-users who use Widows 10.

Microsoft wants to have full control of your computer and then leaches your personal information by the installation of privacy intrusive updates which is then sold for advertisement purposes to give you a better web experience.

I'm believing that one.

Microsoft claims to scrub the sensitive personal information but I find that very hard to believe.

Yes I understand that all of this is in the EULA which I read and that is one of the reasons I migrated to Linux so I would have full control of what information is let out over the WWW.

I believe people should use what OS works best for them and also which OS they are most comfortable using.
Windows is a good OS and there are certain things it does better than other OSs do.
The PoorGuy
. . .will just keep my mouth closed, and my keyboard quiet. . .
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07 Feb 2017   #17
poorguy

Linux Mint 18 Xfce (32bit) / Windows 7 Professional (64bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lee View Post
. . .will just keep my mouth closed, and my keyboard quiet. . .
No No don't do that!
You make very good sense.

You're fine I was just saying that I don't hate Windows 10.
I just don't like how Microsoft is doing things that's all.

The PoorGuy
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08 Feb 2017   #18
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x3, Ubuntu
 
 

I hear a lot of users stating that their reason for not wanting to upgrade from Windows 7 is due to Microsoft's spying, There is a lot of confusion between telemetry and spying. telemetry is an essential part of any complex system, which any operating system must be classed as.

Microsoft has instigated a vast Beta Test program where users volunteer to provide detailed manual feedback to aid in improvement of the OS before the official release, this is extended to small amounts of feedback from the release version to fine tune the OS to work with all the variations that are actually used in the real world. Unlike companies such as Apple that tightly controls the hardware and software so that the variations are minimal between systems and so the testing can be more easily performed.

The whole Windows / PC ecosystem is so many times larger than Apple's (not including iPhone), where a Windows OS is expected to work flawlessly with any variation of hardware and software, that issues are certain to appear after release of the OS when it is used on a combination of hardware and software that is unique. This is where Telemetry is used to fine tune the system.

Telemetry is basically a small amount of data that is captured and used to tune a system. This can be data captured during a failure of the system which helps to prevent the issue causing problems in future, or it can be data from the correct operation of component parts working together (this is normally just of use where an unusual situation is in place, a rare combination or setup). Telemetry has no need to be identifiable to a person, (indeed this would actually reduce the value of the data as it would increase the amount of data transmitted without any extra usable information).

Microsoft does give some options to turn off Telemetry so that will allow a user to control data transfer. The issue is more serious with the home version of Windows 10 where a lot of control has been removed, (the vast majority of users of the Home versions would never even think about changing settings). There are other versions of the OS that are designed for more advanced users and enthusiasts that does allow a lot more control.

Telemetry is an essential part of the world we live in - would anyone demand that the black box and fly-by-wire systems on the aircraft they are boarding be switched off as it may contain their personal Lunch menu? I doubt it
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08 Feb 2017   #19
Lee

Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
I hear a lot of users stating that their reason for not wanting to upgrade from Windows 7 is due to Microsoft's spying, There is a lot of confusion between telemetry and spying. telemetry is an essential part of any complex system, which any operating system must be classed as.

Microsoft has instigated a vast Beta Test program where users volunteer to provide detailed manual feedback to aid in improvement of the OS before the official release, this is extended to small amounts of feedback from the release version to fine tune the OS to work with all the variations that are actually used in the real world. Unlike companies such as Apple that tightly controls the hardware and software so that the variations are minimal between systems and so the testing can be more easily performed.

The whole Windows / PC ecosystem is so many times larger than Apple's (not including iPhone), where a Windows OS is expected to work flawlessly with any variation of hardware and software, that issues are certain to appear after release of the OS when it is used on a combination of hardware and software that is unique. This is where Telemetry is used to fine tune the system.

Telemetry is basically a small amount of data that is captured and used to tune a system. This can be data captured during a failure of the system which helps to prevent the issue causing problems in future, or it can be data from the correct operation of component parts working together (this is normally just of use where an unusual situation is in place, a rare combination or setup). Telemetry has no need to be identifiable to a person, (indeed this would actually reduce the value of the data as it would increase the amount of data transmitted without any extra usable information).

Microsoft does give some options to turn off Telemetry so that will allow a user to control data transfer. The issue is more serious with the home version of Windows 10 where a lot of control has been removed, (the vast majority of users of the Home versions would never even think about changing settings). There are other versions of the OS that are designed for more advanced users and enthusiasts that does allow a lot more control.

Telemetry is an essential part of the world we live in - would anyone demand that the black box and fly-by-wire systems on the aircraft they are boarding be switched off as it may contain their personal Lunch menu? I doubt it
Thank you Barman. . .could not have put it better. . .
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08 Feb 2017   #20
poorguy

Linux Mint 18 Xfce (32bit) / Windows 7 Professional (64bit)
 
 

To bad Microsoft doesn't explain the ways of operation as you do.
Perhaps if they did it might be better accepted instead of the ways that they do.
Very well put.

The PoorGuy
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