i hate w10.

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  1. Lee
    Posts : 1,796
    Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11
       #21

    Hi Poorguy, Microsoft did explain this back when they put out MS Office 13. The whole point was to help improve office for all the businesses that used it on a daily bases. They included the ability to turn on, or off telemetry. It is also included in Office 16, which I have chosen to turn it off.
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  2. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #22

    The ability of the user to turn things on and off to me is "choice".
    I like "choice", and that "choice" should be easy to find and use.

    Jack
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  3. Posts : 203
    Linux
       #23

    Lee said:
    Hi Poorguy, Microsoft did explain this back when they put out MS Office 13. The whole point was to help improve office for all the businesses that used it on a daily bases. They included the ability to turn on, or off telemetry. It is also included in Office 16, which I have chosen to turn it off.
    Hello Lee,
    Not ever using Microsoft Office I didn't know that.
    I have only used LibreOffice.
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  4. Posts : 203
    Linux
       #24

    Layback Bear said:
    The ability of the user to turn things on and off to me is "choice".
    I like "choice", and that "choice" should be easy to find and use.

    Jack
    Hello Layback Bear,

    Choice is good and the end-user should have the choice to turn things off and on.
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  5. Posts : 203
    Linux
       #25

    Hello Barman58,

    Ok Barman after reading your post about Windows 10 and since I do have Windows 10 installed on a desktop I've decided to give it another try and see how it works for me.
    As I stated earlier I don't hate Windows 10 and I've nothing to hide so why not.
    Here's proof you can teach an old dog new tricks.

    The PoorGuy
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  6. Posts : 51,454
    Windows 11 Workstation x64
       #26

    If you have any problems, remember there are plenty of folks and extensive tutorials over at our Windows 10 Forums that can help you out
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  7. Posts : 203
    Linux
       #27

    z3r010 said:
    If you have any problems, remember there are plenty of folks and extensive tutorials over at our Windows 10 Forums that can help you out
    Thanks.

    So far all is running well.
    Surprised at the 3.9GBs of updates it needed but it hasn't been connected in over a year but it is 100% updated.
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  8. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #28

    Hi,
    Not really MS is stuffing 10 full
    Wanted or not all of the stuffing returns :)
    10 is nearly as big as 7 now
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  9. Posts : 4,049
    W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
       #29

    Barman58 said:
    Telemetry is an essential part of the world we live in - would anyone demand that the black box and fly-by-wire systems on the aircraft they are boarding be switched off as it may contain their personal Lunch menu? I doubt it
    There is a huge difference in the consequences of a glitch in an aircraft's flight control system and a glitch in a desktop/phone/tablet device.

    MS could have avoided all of this, by building the data collector tools as plugins that the user has to download and install.
    MS could have offered any incentives they wanted (e.g. more OneDrive space, more Azure credits and/or discounts on software, like Office, Visual Studio, etc.).

    They could have offered a free version of W10, which won't run without the plugins (data collection and adverts).
    The plugins would be downloaded and installed during the OS installation.

    Any version that was purchased would not have the plugins (unless the user choose to download and install them).

    Upgrades of the free version to a better version, would ask if you want to remove the plugins (and actually remove them if told to).
    If a user opted to keep them, they could then be offered the MS bonuses.

    IMO, W10 is much less annoying than the W8 Series (apart from Windows Updates).
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  10. Posts : 203
    Linux
       #30

    I'm curious to know is there a paid version of Windows 10 that an end-user would have full control or more control of the updates and the data collection telemetry.
    Is there any reliable third party software available paid or freeware that would limit the data collection telemetry.
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