i hate w10.

Barman58 said:

Windows 1 Forever
Windows 2 Forever
Windows 3 Forever
Windows 3.1 Forever

I've seen this included in a couple of posts in this thread, and I must point out it is not historically accurate. For those of us building and running PCs in the '89 - '90s timeframe it was:

• DOS 3.3 (33Meg Partition Size Limit, 1M of RAM was more than you would ever use and cost $400)
• DOS 4.1 (Yay! I can use the whole 120Meg drive in a single-partition)
• Windows 286
• Windows 386
• Windows 3.0 (Yes with Trumpet Winsock)
• Windows 3.1 (Yes, still installed on 1.44M floppies, Word 1.0f came out here)
• ...

There may have been something codenamed Windows1 or Windows2, but you didn't see those in boxes.

Kari said:

How strange that you use old calculator like the one in Windows 7 as an example. So this Windows 7 Calculator is "eye candy" to you:

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... and this, Windows 10 Calculator is "generic vanilla - yuk":

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(Screenshot shows native Windows 10 Calculator in build 16199.)

I have to say I totally disagree!

Kari

It is not the 'eye-candy' that is the point (I also note you chose standard as opposed to programmer mode). It is a usability night-mare to those trying to work on smaller screens like laptops, etc.. Notice the HUGE difference in screen real-estate the Win10 web-ized monstrosity requires compared to the properly sized Win7 counterpart. (where there was actually thought put into the needed size, as opposed to just how the heck it manages to render itself on screen X). That was the point in "what has been lost" in addition to the polish, it is actual thought put into managing screen real-estate that has suffered.

I can use either, one sits nicely in the corner and doesn't obscure what I need it for, the other takes up 25% of my screen forcing me to alt-tab back-and-forth to do the same thing. That goes directly to 'usability' and a lack of 'human-factors' understanding from an efficiency standpoint. That is what I hope is addressed in the future after this experiment in cross-platform UI design settles down. (and maybe thow some eye-candy for the window decore )

Hi,
I use this calculator works great :)

Code:

http://www.moffsoft.com/downloads.htm

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drankinatty said:

It is not the 'eye-candy' that is the point.

You specifically used Calculator as an example of vanilla "yuk" looks:

drankinatty said:

But this is about the looks. Win10 is fine if your the type that doesn't mind every application looking like a generic vanilla web-page -- but yuk. just compare it calculator to previous releases is about as good an example as any. Don't get me wrong, I don't want form over function, but when we have had stunning form for over a decade in desktop look, Win10 is somewhat of a let down and feels like a big step backwards in user-interface design.

When I proved you wrong, you are trying with this one:

drankinatty said:

(I also note you chose standard as opposed to programmer mode). It is a usability night-mare to those trying to work on smaller screens like laptops, etc.. Notice the HUGE difference in screen real-estate the Win10 web-ized monstrosity requires compared to the properly sized Win7 counterpart. (where there was actually thought put into the needed size, as opposed to just how the heck it manages to render itself on screen X). That was the point in "what has been lost" in addition to the polish, it is actual thought put into managing screen real-estate that has suffered.

That went wrong, too! If you want me to use Programmer mode Calculator as an example, here it is:



Windows 7 Programmer Calculator on left, minimum size 164,124 pixels (423 * 388). Windows 10 Programmer Calculator on right, 160,000 pixels used (320 * 500). You lost again :)

BTW, as W10 Calculator in programmer mode is almost 25% narrower than W7 one, it sits much nicer on corner of small displays. With less "screen real-estate" used.

Trying to save you from one more embarrassing argument: please do not post now about how you meant unit conversion mode instead of programmer mode as in that mode the W7 Calculator loses even more:



Kari

As they used to say on TV

Busted

I changed my device few years ago. I think that's a better solution