last spring, after my win7 pc died, and much soul-searching, i purchased a new, custom built pc with win 7pro from a builder on ebay. well, its been just great. familiar, nothing to learn over. plenty fast, lots of memory (16), plenty of space. i have updates shut off, do a macrium backup image every friday and keep three images on an external drive. run an older 26.5 portable version of Palemoon off a flashdrive and sandboxed...also Opera with vpn for occasional banking or buying. everything works great and all gets along with each other as smoothly as can be. i am on this box 8-9 hours a day and do tons of video and poker and am always trying new stuff and always sandboxed. i dont update anything but flash and never have a hint of a problem. hope everyone can get to this point in 2019...happy new year to all and 7 forever...Clas