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18 Sep 2019
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#1
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A new variation on the "Windows tech support" phone call scam?
Someone I know locally received an odd phone call from "tech support" with an automated message, stating they would be charged $200 to fix their PC by automatic debit and they would have to call a given phone number for further details. As they have no existing accounts with any PC service business, the caller did not use any names or other identifying info- either their personal or company name, or naming the person they were calling- and their only financial purchasing info is restricted to local utility companies, Paypal and Amazon(I had them change passwords regardless), they and I determined this has to be the phone scam but it seems to be playing out differently than the usual ones. I would assume that they intend people to call in to cancel this scheduled charge but have to give their credit or debit card into to "verify" it. Unfortunately I couldn't find anything online about this variation.
And while I know people here would be wise enough to not fall for these things but many people still are on a daily basis, as these scams easily target less tech-savvy people, especially the elderly, so it would be worth informing people about this take on the scam.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway DX4822-01
OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU Intel Pentium Dual Core 2.6 GHz
Motherboard stock factory for this model
Memory 6 GB
Graphics Card stock factory for this model
Sound Card stock factory for this model
Monitor(s) Displays Dell P2010Ht
Screen Resolution 1600 x 900
Keyboard Logitech
Mouse HP 3-button optical wheel mouse
PSU 300 watt
Cooling 80mm case fan, CPU fan, 60mm front intake
Hard Drives 1 TB Western Digital
Internet Speed fiber optic
Antivirus MSE, SuperAntiSpyware, Malwarebytes Free
19 Sep 2019
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#2
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Hi Diosoth,
Thanks for bringing this to the forum members attention!
There are unfortunately [as you say] less PC literate users that might fall into this scam.
If there was a problem, only users with an actual MS account would be notified via a genuine email anyway!
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My System Specs |
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Computer type Laptop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Fujitsu LIFEBOOK
OS Win 7 HP SP1 64-bit Vista HB SP2 32-bit Linux Mint 18.3
CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU P6200 @ 2.13GHz
Motherboard FUJITSU FJNBB06
Memory 4.00 GB
Graphics Card Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator HD
Sound Card [1] Realtek High Definition Audio [2] Intel(R) Display Audio
Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives TOSHIBA MK5076GSX
Antivirus AVG FREE
19 Sep 2019
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#3
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Thank you for sharing this warning, Diosoth. I think it's important to share this everywhere. We all have family, especially the ones who don't familiar with internet things, like our elderly grandparents, etc. I have just Googled about this and found some reports filed at Fake tech support agents using 315-791-4443 / 3157914443 about similar scams. People should be on extra guard and keep informing family about how these scammers work.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
OS Windows 10 64bit
30 Sep 2019
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#4
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I keep getting these because my answering machine picks them up when I'm out, which signals them to keep calling. My variation says my tech support subscription is about to expire.
When I used to get the real human "from Microsoft," I told them I don't have a computer, and they haven't called back. That worked very well, as my goal is always to make them stop interrupting me. I work online from home.
I also get a few Chinese ones, or maybe they're all the same.
Verizon catches many of these, and it says "SPAM?" on the cordless phone's little screen. I've read that the telco's are all working on solutions
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number HP p6-2100
OS Win 7 Ult 64-bit
CPU G620 2.6GHZ Pentium R
Memory 6 GB
Monitor(s) Displays 25" Dell
Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200
Case HP
Cooling PSU
Hard Drives 1 SATA, 1 exterior SATA
Antivirus Avast
Browser Waterfox; Chrome for work
Other Info Similar specs in a 2nd machine, Gateway
30 Sep 2019
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#5
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The way that these "Call this number to Cancel" type scam often work is that the phone line given is a "Pay Line" and is set up at some exorbitant rate - even worse than the "legitimate" ones
There was one different spin on the technique used in the UK a few years ago, a lady dressed smartly to look like a typical business woman would knock on the front door in apparent distress saying that her Mobile / Cell Phone was not working and she was running late and could she make a call from the house phone to make sure that her children were picked up from school or similar. She would even offer a few pounds to cover the call often the housholder was elderly or otherwise vulnerable to this approach, but if they said yes they had a bill from their own telecoms company charged at £20 per Minute or more - the scammer had set up the line they called so they received the majority of the money.
This system can also work with an input of a Website so never ring any number to check
Another thing that I have noticed on UK TV recently is that companies are making statements about their products as to quality or awards, and then providing a special email address to contact to verify the info rather than a Web address - what is of course actually happening is they are harvesting the potential customers personal email for future marketing
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Custom by Me)
OS Windows 10 Pro x64 x3, Ubuntu
CPU AMD FX8350 Vishera 8 Core @4GHz
Motherboard Asus M5A78L-M USB3
Memory 32GB [4x8GB] DDR3 1600 MHz
Graphics Card Asus nVidia GTX750TI-OC-2GD5 (2GB DDR5)
Sound Card ASUS Xoner DG (2.1 speakers) + SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI
Monitor(s) Displays Acer G276HL 27", (DVi) + Samsung 39" HDTV (HDMI)
Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1920 x 1080 @60Hz
Keyboard Logitech Wireless K710 & K400
Mouse Logitech Wireless MX Master & M570 Trackball
PSU Aerocool Templarius Imperator 750W 80+ Silver
Case AeroCool X-Warrior Devil Red Tower
Cooling Stock CPU, Rear 120mm, Front 2x120mm, Side 2x120mm
Hard Drives Internal
Crucial 256GB SSD,
WDC WD30EZRX-00D8PB0 3TB,
Toshiba HDWD130 3TB
Seagate ST2000DM001-1CH1 2TB,
External (USB3)
Seagate Backup+ Hub BK SCSI Disk 8TB
2.5/3.5 Hot Swap Cradle, USB3 + eSata (client HDDs)
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Seagate ST4000DM000
Internet Speed Orange Fibre Broadband 37Mb/s Down - 9.5Mb/s Up
Antivirus Bitdefender Total Security 2018 Multi-device
Browser Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
Other Info Also run...
Desktop - 6Core 8GB - Windows 10 Enterprise x64,
Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
Netbook - Ubuntu Not used often ;)
2 x Nexus 7 Android tablets
Samsung 10.2" tablet + Keyboard and Logitech T620 Mouse
Samsung Galaxy S7
Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
HTC One Android Smartphone
30 Sep 2019
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#6
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I've had a couple of calls, one of which said my Social Security number has been "suspend" (not suspended) and to press 1 for more information (my answering machine picked it up). Another one my answering machine picked up said my Social Security number had been suspended, a warrant had been issued for my arrest, and to press 1 for more information.
So, if I completely disappear from here, would someone please come out here to bail me out?
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build
OS Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays 3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080, ?
Keyboard Logitech G510s
Mouse Logitech M525 (two in use)
PSU Corsair HX750w
Case Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Hard Drives Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
Internet Speed =< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser IE11
Other Info LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
01 Oct 2019
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#7
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Suspending a SSN? Not likely but it's one of those things I can see a lot of people falling for, as they wouldn't know that. Also calling you about a warrant- as I understand US police don't operate that way.
Letting a stranger in your home is another BAD idea- they might be casing your house to rob it later, but people feel a need to help others in need so it's another one easy to pull. At most you should tell them to stay outside and make all calls yourself to be safe if you must help an unknown stranger.
The "charge per minute" scam sounds likely in this case though- they didn't call the number, I'll warn them though not to do so in the future if they get another.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway DX4822-01
OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU Intel Pentium Dual Core 2.6 GHz
Motherboard stock factory for this model
Memory 6 GB
Graphics Card stock factory for this model
Sound Card stock factory for this model
Monitor(s) Displays Dell P2010Ht
Screen Resolution 1600 x 900
Keyboard Logitech
Mouse HP 3-button optical wheel mouse
PSU 300 watt
Cooling 80mm case fan, CPU fan, 60mm front intake
Hard Drives 1 TB Western Digital
Internet Speed fiber optic
Antivirus MSE, SuperAntiSpyware, Malwarebytes Free
01 Oct 2019
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#8
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Quote: Originally Posted by Diosoth
Suspending a SSN? Not likely but it's one of those things I can see a lot of people falling for, as they wouldn't know that. Also calling you about a warrant- as I understand US police don't operate that way...
I had no doubt that the calls I got about my SSN were bogus. I was being facetious about possibly needing to be bailed out of jail
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build
OS Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
CPU Intel i7-3930K
Motherboard ASUS P9X79 WS
Memory Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR
Graphics Card MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR
Sound Card Asus Xonar Essence STX
Monitor(s) Displays 3x Asus VG248QE 24", Vizio 32" TV
Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080, ?
Keyboard Logitech G510s
Mouse Logitech M525 (two in use)
PSU Corsair HX750w
Case Antec Two Hundred v2 (modified)
Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm)
Hard Drives Samsung 128GB 840 Pro SSD (1),
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (4)
Samsung 4TB 850 EVO SSDs (16) external backup drives used in 2.5" hot swap bays in the computer.
Internet Speed =< 32Mbps down, 8Mbps up
Antivirus AVAST!, MBAM, SAS, Spybot S&D (all but MBAM free) Glary Util
Browser IE11
Other Info LSI 9211-8i HBA card (8 SATA III ports), 2.5" & 3.5" Hot Swap Bays, HooToo HT-CR001 PCI-E to USB 3.0 Internal Hub + 6 Slot Card Reader, and LG Model CH12LS28 BD-ROM Optical Drive. Also, ScanSnap S1500 ADF duplexing scanner, Canon 9000F flat bed scanner, Corsair SP2500 2.1 speakers, Samsung CLP 415nw laser color printer, Cyberpower PP2200SW UPS
06 Oct 2019
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#9
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A friend has recommended Nomorobo, which blocks the call, so your answering machine won't pick it up.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number HP p6-2100
OS Win 7 Ult 64-bit
CPU G620 2.6GHZ Pentium R
Memory 6 GB
Monitor(s) Displays 25" Dell
Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200
Case HP
Cooling PSU
Hard Drives 1 SATA, 1 exterior SATA
Antivirus Avast
Browser Waterfox; Chrome for work
Other Info Similar specs in a 2nd machine, Gateway
07 Oct 2019
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#10
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For a previous employer I had to work with real Microsoft techs. Support was always achieved the same way. Call a special number, give our contact information and method of payment (in our case an account number), description of our issue with the severity, and we get a case/ticket number. Then the tech would call. If you don't have a ticket number then your caller is not from Microsoft.
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My System Specs |
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Computer type PC/Desktop
System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple Mid 2010 iMac
OS Windows 7 pro 64-bit sp 1
CPU Intel Core i3 550 Quad core 3.2 ghz.
Memory 8 gb
Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5670 512 MB ram
Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1440x900.
Hard Drives WDC WD1001FALS-40Y6A0 ATA Device 1 TB
Antivirus MSE
Browser FF of course.
Other Info Virtual machines for XP pro, Vista Ultimate, 8.1 industry pro, and windows server 2000-2016.
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