The Next Five-Year Plan

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  1. Posts : 9,600
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    CFjohnny55 said:
    I stand notified under rule of law, thank you, sir. I will simply have to take my chances. but should the sky actually fall, I will not be disappointed, as I have waited a lifetime (64 years) to see it happen.
    I've been waiting even longer and, frankly, I'm not worried about the sky falling, literally or metaphorically.
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  2. Posts : 1,850
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       #32

    It might have initially been free (plus the included spyware of course) but it'll cost users in the end. Eventually I'm sure that they will do something to make that back. There have already been a few long running discussions on this. I will say that if I had a 10 machine it would be the one I would trust the least on the net. I'll eventually switch to Linux and use a Windows VM.
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  3. Posts : 31
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       #33

    My Win10 machine is an intentional 'target of opportunity' for the Internet. To further juice the game, I run the "Windows Insider" versions under agreement with MS. They are free to do as they please with me and my helpless victim. Fortunately the hardware is a DELL Optiplex chassis and Mr. Dell builds practically indestructible products. You can torture the CPU all that you wish and it still will take more! I use it as my e-mail collection point and everything incoming gets scanned. The big story begins in 1979 when the UNIX specification, version 7, was released by AT&T, and the book was forever closed on the topic of, "Just what is UNIX and this cult-language they call C?" ... 'The K&R' (Kernighan and Ritchie) was the specifications of the C programming language. To me, C was a crutch for people who could not write programs in BINARY (like I could, and did) -- I am a prick like that. However Stroustrup (C++) did win me over, but that was because Nicklaus Wirth had already succeeded with Pascal. FORTRAN IS FOREVER!, and where I started my days coding in high school, during 1972-3.
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  4. Posts : 1,384
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       #34

    townsbg said:
    It might have initially been free (plus the included spyware of course) but it'll cost users in the end. Eventually I'm sure that they will do something to make that back. There have already been a few long running discussions on this. I will say that if I had a 10 machine it would be the one I would trust the least on the net. I'll eventually switch to Linux and use a Windows VM.
    Delighted to see you and Lady F here, writing in intelligible sentences.

    IT husband of a friend has passed on, and I've acquired one of his high-power machines with a wiped SSD, wondering if I should put 7 or 10 into it. 10 will require intense work to civilize it, and it seems a waste to install 10 into a good machine. Maybe I should save it for whatever comes after 10.
    Last edited by RoWin7; 21 Oct 2019 at 22:33.
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  5. Posts : 31
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #35

    seven is for stable


    It is a no-brainer to me: Win7 is the last WinNT release that followed in natural course of MS control systems for small computing devices. Win Vista/8/8.1 give us a glaring view of the world when viewed from MS exec mgmt: give them bread and circuses. I did try Win 8.1 and I am still cleaning up its messes. Win 10 is a 'new think' product. Its balls are cut off and it is all safe to touchy-feely things. In the days before the darkness came, there was "$dir/z" and its RUsure(Y/N)? warning. If you weren't sure before you evoked that power, you certainly were after. Power to the end user has gradually waned to the point of Safe for All Little Janes and Johnnies -- contact a qualified MS service person to reformat your disks.

    Thanks, but I'll swing instead without the safety net. The goal is migrating from Win7 to Linux and forever putting aside the 'stride-rights' of Win10. At least, in my not-so-humble opinion.
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  6. Posts : 31
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #36

    FWIW, my first little-Linux tiny-computer arrived. It is a Raspberrypi and runs Raspbian, a derivative of Debian Linux. It will fit in your shirt pocket and put up a full desktop on your widescreen TV. It sucks sustenance off the Internet via cable, and a wireless keyboard/mouse combo has you on top of its little world. I have a simple project in mind for it. I expect what every electronics engineer craves and yet rarely provides: a quick, simple and slick solution -- if you can escape the dominion of MSthink. All for $58, plus a SOIC 32GB memory card and an overnight download from the UK of the widget's OS. From small things, yanno?
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  7. Posts : 9,600
    Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
       #37

    RoWin7 said:
    ...10 will require intense work to civilize it, and it seems a waste to install 10 into a good machine. Maybe I should save it for whatever comes after 10.
    Sadly, based on what MS has been telling us, there will be no whatever after 10. Win 10 is a continuously "evolving" OS that will just continue to receive "upgrades" one or twice a year.

    Have you considered switching to a flavor of Linux? Learning to use it shouldn't be much more difficult than learning how to use and civilize Win 10. Most people recommend Mint Cinnamon for people coming to Linux from Windows. That's what I plan on doing soon, once life quits keeping happening a bit.
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  8. Posts : 1,384
    Win 7 Ult 64-bit
       #38

    I can try out Linux on one machine, but probably can't use it for work. Does it use the Windows browsers? Chrome is a requirement, Firefox/Waterfox sometimes.

    We had a Linux class at my computer club, but it's defunct.

    Rochelle
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  9. Posts : 9,600
    Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
       #39

    RoWin7 said:
    I can try out Linux on one machine, but probably can't use it for work. Does it use the Windows browsers? Chrome is a requirement, Firefox/Waterfox sometimes.

    We had a Linux class at my computer club, but it's defunct.

    Rochelle
    Most browsers have versions that will work with Linux, including Google Chrome and Firefox. In fact, many, if not most, distros of Linux come with Firefox as the default browser. I suggest you check out this forum (EzeeTalk) for more info and also check out Joe Collins' (the Forums' owner) excellent Linux videos on Boob...er...Youtube.
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  10. Posts : 31
    Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
    Thread Starter
       #40

    Lady Fitzgerald, wellllllllllllllllllllllll... If you use FireFox from Mozilla, that is the Linux browser that we use under windows in lieu of Explorer, #? -- which has no use for me. So, once you pop up Linux you get FireFox, renamed 'IceWeasal' and it looks the same! No pain, no learning curve, just get with it. Your employer is already miserable over IT expenses with MS, and they are not about to allow "a child off the streets!" into their insecure (emotionally) environment. The little pocket computer might just be your friend. It will take a UBS wireless connection and with BlueTooth. Learn to subvert without detection.
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