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Windows 7: Looking for volunteers to review a document

20 Dec 2009   #1
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 
Looking for volunteers to review a document

My local computer club has asked me to teach a class on System Facilities. The audiance are mostly retirees with beginner level knowledge of PCs. On the very first page (Preface - CH 0) there is a link to the club news which can give you an impression of the club members and current activities.
I have created a PDF document from which I will teach the class. I will walk them thru the document and demonstrate the various features and programs as we go along. I will also create videos captured from the screen for each chapter that should be as if I was holding the class. That will be done once the document is final.
If you have some spare time, I would very much appreciate your review of the document. I am looking for a check of the technical accuracy. Although I have tried my best to state correct technical information, it is very possible that there are mistakes. Please refer to the chapter and page numbers with your inputs.
One word of warning - the document is about 60 pages (with a lot of pictures though). So it will take some time to wade thru it. The class will be held in 2 times 2 hours on 2 different days. The attendees will get the link for the document so that they can do further studies at home (including watching the videos). Then, 2 weeks later, we will arrange for a Q&A session. During the class itself, I do not expect them to retain more than 10% of the content.
The document you can download from here: ( HCCC Class.zip - Windows Live ).
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20 Dec 2009   #2
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Still looking. Suggestions for an attractive title would also be welcome - remember, this is mostly for little old ladies.
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21 Dec 2009   #3
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Hi,

Just a couple of points CH-1 page 13 and 14:

On 7 (and, if I remember correctly also on Vista), you rt click Taskbar or Start Orb and select PROPERTIES then select Start menu Tab to get to customize.

Also, on 7 - the snipping tool is separate - you can use it even if you uninstalled Tablet pc ( tho. Faststone Capture is better).

CH1-Page 19. You need to rt click the top border of command window to Select Mark.

CH2 -page 4. I notice no difference in the size of each shadow copy between Vista and 7.

CH2-page 15. It might be easier to get them to run checkdisk from windows gui - rt click the drive>Properties>Tools.

I think you may be asking a little too much of them - using Process Explorer, etc.

Some free apps. they may find useful are the Windows Access Panel:

Windows Access Panel

And Fix Windows utility:

FixWin
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21 Dec 2009   #4
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Thank you Very much SIW2. Very kind of you to have taken the time. I will reflect your suggestions in the next update.
I am, however, puzzled by your comment regarding shadowstorage. In Win7, I have 14 shadows in a used shadowstorage of 4.05GB. That is on average less than 270MB per shadow. In Vista they are between 500MB and 1GB. Maybe that's only on my system, but those are the numbers I see.

You may be right on the Process Explorer. But they have to start learning some time. And the PE provides so many functions. Maybe a couple of the attendees will play around with it.
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21 Dec 2009   #5
IggyAZ

Windows 7 Ultimate (64 bit)
 
 

I used to do this about 5 years ago. The key is what do the retirees want to learn.

I have used the KISS principle. "Keep it simple stupid"
Your pdf pages have lots of information that I think is way over the heads of your audience.

If you remove most of the technical terms and use the KISS principle will work for starters.

I hope you plan on giving this in mutiple sessions. Max time per class 40-45 min.

If you present too much they will get bored because they will not inderstand or keep up. This may key many off the wall questions and yoou will lose your track.

Some of the subjects they wanted to learn were.

How do I hook up my digital camera
How do I install my new photo printer.
How can I save pictures sent to me via emails
Where and how do I save things so I can remember where they are located.
Do I need a virus scanner?
How do I delete all the old emails I have in Outlook Express or Outlook...

That is just my thoughts. Please don't take me wrong but I actually asked my class to write down what they wanted to learn from the class which really setup many great classes during the year. We only met once a month and everyone went home with a great handout to see if they can do it on their computer.

It was fun and made them very happy.
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21 Dec 2009   #6
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

IggyAZ, Thank you for your thoughts. Some of the subjects you suggested are already covered by other classes that are regularily scheduled in the club - the club has a very extensive education program. The aim here was to get them a bit beyond the basics. Even the teachers that teach a lot of the other classes are scheduled to attend because their knowledge is often very basic too.
I understand the "glazy eye" effect. The classes are for 2 hours each day, but interrupted by a coffee break of half an hour where they can discuss with me. And after the 2 hours, they can ask questions.
The aim is to get them from a beginner or beginner+ level to a beginner geek level and get them interested in the system work. But maybe that is too much asked. I would expect, however, that those who are not interested at all, will not show up. The club has about 650 members, so there are all kinds.
Since I give them the link to the document including the videos, they will have ample opportunity to review the material as often as they want in the comfort of their home. But maybe you are right and people are not that eager to learn. Although that would be something I have a hard time to understand. i am in the same age group (72years) and I would hate to stop learning.
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21 Dec 2009   #7
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

If you are introducing process explorer, look at the "Resource Monitor" from the task manager (On the Performance tab), it's almosty the exact same thing (same code for the most part too!) but is built in and more simply organized.
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21 Dec 2009   #8
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fseal View Post
If you are introducing process explorer, look at the "Resource Monitor" from the task manager (On the Performance tab), it's almosty the exact same thing (same code for the most part too!) but is built in and more simply organized.

Understand, but I was working my way up to .dlls and the Radio icon for checking surprise messages. I thought that was neat to tell them about. And besides, PE has so much more function than TM - I think it's worth knowing about it. But I will include a bit more about Resource manager too. - Thanks for the comment.
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21 Dec 2009   #9
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

[edited]

From what I was able to gather, the Rsource monitor does atleast 90% of what Proces Explorer does. It's actually the same code, repackaged for W7 basically.
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21 Dec 2009   #10
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fseal View Post
[edited]

From what I was able to gather, the Rsource monitor does atleast 90% of what Proces Explorer does. It's actually the same code, repackaged for W7 basically.

How do I check the source of an error message with RM?
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