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Windows 7: Anybody got a copy of Windows 3.0 (yes 3.0)

23 Mar 2009   #31
Night Hawk

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You'll notice that was MS plus not MS alone working with AT&T a large communications company. Time frame "early 70s" while Windows 1.0 followed the early forms of MS Dos.
1985: Windows 1.0

The first version of Windows provided a new software environment for developing and running applications that use bitmap displays and mouse pointing devices. Before Windows, PC users relied on the MS-DOS® method of typing commands at the C prompt (C:\). With Windows, users moved a mouse to point and click their way through tasks, such as starting applications.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/WinHistoryDesktop.mspx

Then there was the later startup of the server type rather then desktop as far as Windows was concerned.

Windows Products and Technologies History

Windows Server Timeline

Published: June 5, 2002 | Updated: June 30, 2003

In 1988, Microsoft formed what would become the development team for the Microsoft Windows NT® product. The team's goal was to develop a 32-bit, multipurpose operating system in anticipation of a PC chip architecture that was still a few years away. Microsoft Windows Server™ 2003 is the evolution of the server operating system that Microsoft began with the release of the first version of Windows NT Server in 1993. Windows Products and Technologies History: Windows Server Timeline
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23 Mar 2009   #32
PhreePhly

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
Minux was simply another dirivative of something else like SUN's Solaris Unix base and IBM while MS was the later starter in the OS field following the introduction of 1.0. By then the x86 processor following the 8086, 8088 were making that possible.

Server 2008 would be the thing to be looking at now with that on the way.
Minix was Unix-like, but based on a microkernel. Remember, Linux was first assembled on Minix systems. Linus decided to use a monolithic kernel as opposed to the microkernel.

MS was late, but the chief architect was Dave Cutler, of VMS fame. Also, NT was originally planned to run on the MIPS R4000 chip, but MIPS couldn't get a chip done in time. The original NT also ran on the DEC Alpha chip. There were PowerPC versions of NT 3.51 and NT 4.0, I believe.

Well its Server 2008 R2 that we need to be looking for. Server 2008 uses the Vista SP1 kernel, wereas Server 2008 R2 will be using the Windows 7 kernel.

For the record, I'm not trying to nitpick your postings, I just remember that time fairly well. I was in the NT 3.1 beta, trying to get our Windows for Workgroup 3.11 systems connected. We were running a Netware 3.2??? server at the time and were hoping to replace it. Fun times.

PhreePhly
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23 Mar 2009   #33
PhreePhly

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
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In 1988, Microsoft formed what would become the development team for the Microsoft Windows NT® product. The team's goal was to develop a 32-bit, multipurpose operating system in anticipation of a PC chip architecture that was still a few years away. Microsoft Windows Server™ 2003 is the evolution of the server operating system that Microsoft began with the release of the first version of Windows NT Server in 1993. Windows Products and Technologies History: Windows Server Timeline
Well, kinda. That development team was put in place to work with IBM and produce OS/2 and its Server companion. Cutler was hired on to strat the work on the server component. MS was caught somewhat offguard with how well Windows 3.0 took off. Gates saw that he had a winner in Windows and decided to part company with IBM. Cutler never planned on producing a Server with a GUI, and fought against adding the Windows Program Manager GUI to NT.

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PhreePhly
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23 Mar 2009   #34
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Digital Equipment Corp. certainly goes back a few years I guess bought out by Ashton some time back since the upper thinking was to keep everything "business machines only" while everyone else was selling to the consumer in general. The bottom fell out there fast!

Other companies have also changed hands or simply folded over as well like Packard Bell, Epson, CompaQ now HP, and the list goes on. As far as the RC2 for Server 2009 are you surprized to see the 7 kernel implimented there? It stands to reason that 7 replacing Vista would also make sense to replace the Vista portion of the next server edition with the better.
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23 Mar 2009   #35
PhreePhly

Windows 7 x64 (RTM via MSDN)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
Digital Equipment Corp. certainly goes back a few years I guess bought out by Ashton some time back since the upper thinking was to keep everything "business machines only" while everyone else was selling to the consumer in general. The bottom fell out there fast!

Other companies have also changed hands or simply folded over as well like Packard Bell, Epson, CompaQ now HP, and the list goes on. As far as the RC2 for Server 2009 are you surprized to see the 7 kernel implimented there? It stands to reason that 7 replacing Vista would also make sense to replace the Vista portion of the next server edition with the better.
Actually DEC was bought by Compaq in the late 1990s (1997 or 1998), who was then bought by HP (in 2002?).

I only mentioned server 2008 R2 in response to you singling out Server 2008. There are still quite a few Server 2003 systems up and running and secure.

Well, I think we have strayed pretty far from the OP, so I'll just stop here. Sorry for derailing the thread.

PhreePhly
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23 Mar 2009   #36
jfar

Vista Ult64, Win7600
 
 

Hi, no, sorry not at the moment.
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24 Mar 2009   #37
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by PhreePhly View Post
Actually DEC was bought by Compaq in the late 1990s (1997 or 1998), who was then bought by HP (in 2002?).

I only mentioned server 2008 R2 in response to you singling out Server 2008. There are still quite a few Server 2003 systems up and running and secure.

Well, I think we have strayed pretty far from the OP, so I'll just stop here. Sorry for derailing the thread.

PhreePhly
That's not actual derailing but simply adding additional information on the progression since 3.0. I was likely thinking of the Ashton-Tate Digital buy out/merger being rediscussed about the same time as hearing about Dec.
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