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I agree with the "keep AMD" I wouldn't like to see them shut down.
Intel wouldnt *kill* AMD...
they *will* slow their sales but would not kill them.....
Intel needs AMD and same with AMD....
its called MAD... (Mutually Assured Destruction)
where if AMD died i would think they would take AMDx64 with them (either or they would milk the deal it till the cows come home) and would have to make a new instruction set (since AMD is gone with the patent) and would make all current x64 software impossible to use...(unless you VM your software but then whats the use of that since what you want is the power and speed of x64...)
and if intel died there goes x86 which is where AMD and pretty much the Industry is based on (although that Cell-cpu [i remember that there was a laptop shown with a Cell CPU and it was blazing Fast] would technically still live but again would need a compatibility layer which would take some cpu power and would not be as a stable computer )
it would pretty much *kill* the industry since the x86 tech patents are completely own by intel and noone else...
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i wish my country wasnt as Capitalist as currently is...
it was the lack of regulation which made this happen...
i say if transperancy with easy to understand data
i say xbrl should be the gold standard for every company so that it would take less time for regulators to look and regulate a company and would give anyone the power to view how a company is doing...
reason im saying this is because if it werent for that we would have been able to have seen the signs of this...
but like every recession once it perks back up noone cares for regulation or even cares...
they just like that everyone is buying and selling....
which is why i sometimes hate this country (or some of its people)
oh well this ends my rant on politics sorry for stealing a few minutes of your time....
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Closing AMD would be bad for the consumer in the long run.
And yeah DA, we sometimes hate your country too
Once the recession is over, it will be back to business as usual
I highly doubt that AMD will be shut-down. They are a top-notch company and in my opinion for us that don't have the deeper pockets, we rely on AMD and they've honestly got some amazing products at some amazing prices.
Long live AMD!
Hi Smartey,
Please don't hate the country, just the politicians. Most of us hate them too. Seems we don't get to vote for the best person for the job anymore, just the least incompetent. The dregs of society IMO. When you ask someone with real intelligence if they will run the answer is always 'No way I want that job.'
If it says "Intel Inside" it should lay over on it's side!
My AMD machines have always preformed better IMO!
Don't get me wrong mate, I don't hate Americans nor am I anti-USA. It's just that certain aspects of American culture and it's negative influential impacts are hard not to create any other feeling but ones of loathing. (ie Creating a Litigious Society)
As for hating "Liarticians", just like breathing, it's universal
Born and raised in the good ole US of A and here's my take on the whole shebang.
Intel is trying to figure out exactly how AMD circumvented their agreement before, so they can then force AMD into a new agreement that allows Intel some added benefits on the EMT64T technology that it desperately wants in order to move forward. This is not about shutting down AMD - no one better than the Board at Intel knows this, so all you folks screaming "Bloody whatever" about Intel trying to shut AMD down need to wake up and get a serious reality check. Intel *needs* AMD around for at least another couple of decades - with the sheer performance edge that Intel has exhibited in recent years (coincidentally starting not long after this agreement was signed) Intel knows that trying to kill off AMD now would be its biggest mistake ever - b/c 64bit processing is exploding right now and new technology is going to be needed in order to move forward into the next generation of processing.
Now, having said that, I too, hate some of the policies and actions of this country (as a nation) and even more so of many of its peoples both as a group and as individuals. There is a lot wrong with this place, but there is also a lot right with it - and as long as capitalism in its purest sense still exists (and yes, it *does* exist in its purest sense - it is not all about cheating the next man and hurting your customer in every business) I will continue to live here and carve my own niche.
If there ever comes a day that only greed based capitalism exists throughout the entire land, I'll move in a heartbeat.
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Simply put, AMD messed up and should be punished accordingly. They breached a contract and should deal with it ASAP and get back to work.
Intel may very well have the power to make AMD stop production, but they wont.
No Intel will not shut them down because Intel need AMD as their rivals because they need someone to compete against. You just can't produce an exceptional product and make advances in technology without an opponent.
Look at Holden Vs. Ford for example, do you honestly think the build quality of either car be as good if the other company did not exist? No, it wouldn't!
When Ford had a better fuel injected vehicle in the mid 80's, what did Holden do....They purchased the rights to produce the Nissan RB30e powerplant and put it into the VL Commodore.
Intel & AMD will battle head to head (albeit with Intel wearing the crown and AMD wearing a MaxiPad) for many years to come.
I am an Intel fan, but without AMD my C2D wouldn't be running 64bit as good as it does!
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Last edited by skunksmash; 22 Mar 2009 at 22:45.