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Windows 7: Windows Seven isnt Seven?

22 Jan 2010   #31
richc46

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Windows 10, Home Clean Install
 
 

All here know its just Vista under the hood. They just do not want to make it public.
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23 Jan 2010   #32
pezzonovante

Windows 7 RTM x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by richc46 View Post
All here know its just Vista under the hood. They just do not want to make it public.
I wonder why they don't make it public. Because I used to love Vista. Before I got my hands on Win7, I thought Vista was the greatest thing since sliced bread. XP was the worst version of Windows I ever used, and I have been using Windows since the 3.1 days.
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23 Jan 2010   #33
Coolness

Win 7 pro 64-bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pezzonovante View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by richc46 View Post
All here know its just Vista under the hood. They just do not want to make it public.
I wonder why they don't make it public. Because I used to love Vista. Before I got my hands on Win7, I thought Vista was the greatest thing since sliced bread. XP was the worst version of Windows I ever used, and I have been using Windows since the 3.1 days.
LOL,? Xp is fast, vista is slow. Vista has too much, XP has just the right amount of everything. Everyone hates Vista. Go along.
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23 Jan 2010   #34
alphanumeric

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

For me Windows 2000 was the first Microsoft OS that made me smile. It was rock solid, blue screens were few and far between, for me anyway. I only got them when I tweaked things I probably shouldn't have. With compatibility mode I could run all my old games. I think that was the OS that crossed the work and at home barrier. It was a good all around OS. If Microsoft would have let you run the latest version of IE and MP on 2K I probably never would have moved on to XP.
The 7 thing I think is all about Vista, or not about Vista depending on how you look at it. With all the problems that Vista had the name of the new OS shouldn't infer any connection to it. So obviously they weren't going to call it "The New Vista" or "Vista SE". As far as the kernel goes, windows 2000 was NT5.0, XP was NT5.1, so if it worked on 2k it should run on XP. Drivers shouldn't be a big deal either so come join the party. Vista was NT 6.0 which created a lot of problems with drivers and program compatibility. It wasn't so easy to go from XP to Vista and that ended up being a big problem early on. Not so much now. If 7 had used a new kernel say 7.0 Microsoft would have just repeated the cycle or no drivers and poor program compatibility that plagued Vista early on. Not a good move. So it's not hard to see why they went to NT 6.1. Calling it 7 I guess just makes "most" people think its an entirely new OS. Also I would think calling it Windows 6.1 would get a lot of "thats just lame" comments. Anyway to make a long story short, oh I guess it's too late for that now, oh well.
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23 Jan 2010   #35
manhunter2826

Windows XP - Now Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit).
 
 

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XP was the worst version of Windows I ever used, and I have been using Windows since the 3.1 days.
Lol, gotta disagree here; XP was the best implementation of Windows since a very long time. Vista was a disaster - and surely MS know it
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23 Jan 2010   #36
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by manhunter2826 View Post
Lol, gotta disagree here; XP was the best implementation of Windows since a very long time. Vista was a disaster - and surely MS know it
You weren't there for the launch of Windows XP were you? It had more a lot more problems that plaqued it then Vista ever did.
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23 Jan 2010   #37
Zidane24

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by manhunter2826 View Post
Quote:
XP was the worst version of Windows I ever used, and I have been using Windows since the 3.1 days.
Lol, gotta disagree here; XP was the best implementation of Windows since a very long time. Vista was a disaster - and surely MS know it
XP+two Service Packs and 9 years of updates makes it a solid OS...

Vista + 2SPs is already better and were only at year three....

7 Out of the box blew them both away
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23 Jan 2010   #38
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x3, Ubuntu
 
 

Would any one who is using XP like to do a version check You will find that XP is actually windows NT 5.1 (windows 200 was 5.0) .

The reason for this is the simple fact that a lot of developers are lazy

Rather than perform a version check as greater than 6 they check for 6.something. because of this an application will fail for no real reason. By reporting Windows 7 as 6.1 it improves comatability for thos applications that are sloppily written

A similar piece of coding laziness is responsible for the vast majority of programs that will only run as administrator.
It has been the windows standard since NT3.5 to always code for the non administrative user, so next time you click on a UAC prompt that's not really needed don't blame MS it's more likely to be the application developer's fault
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23 Jan 2010   #39
Coolness

Win 7 pro 64-bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
Would any one who is using XP like to do a version check You will find that XP is actually windows NT 5.1 (windows 200 was 5.0) .

The reason for this is the simple fact that a lot of developers are lazy

Rather than perform a version check as greater than 6 they check for 6.something. because of this an application will fail for no real reason. By reporting Windows 7 as 6.1 it improves comatability for thos applications that are sloppily written

A similar piece of coding laziness is responsible for the vast majority of programs that will only run as administrator.
It has been the windows standard since NT3.5 to always code for the non administrative user, so next time you click on a UAC prompt that's not really needed don't blame MS it's more likely to be the application developer's fault
I thought NT was 4.0, and ME/2000 was 4.1. I guess im wrong then...
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23 Jan 2010   #40
alphanumeric

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

2K was 5.0 and XP was 5.1, not sure what ME was. Was ME even based on an NT kernel ?

EDIT: Looks like ME was the last of the 9x series of operating systems from Microsoft and not part of the NT family. At least thats what i get from a quick Google search.
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