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Windows 7: Image theft is piracy too

05 Apr 2010   #31
WindowsStar

Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadMaxData View Post
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I will freely download images unless the website declares the images to be property of the website and requires permission to down load them. If an image is labeled as copyrighted, I won't download it either.
All websites are copyrighted, even those without a copyright symbol on them. So technically, that's stealing, and breaking copyright law. I'm not just making this up. You can easily do a search on copyright laws for images. And by the way, I don't care if people right click and save images, then use them on the net. I'm just informing people that it is indeed copyright infringement. It's not like I've never done it. Of course I have.
@MadMaxData you are right about the copyright, however it does not hold up in court. My dad, uncle and a long list of friends are professional photographers and now are GFX people. There was a law suit because of downloaded pictures from our web site and guess what we lost because the pictures were not copyrighted or watermarked, even though the site was copyrighted. The problem here is that since your web browser downloads the pictures they are on your computer when you view the web site so then just browsing the web page would be considered stealing. The judge in the case stated that you HAVE to watermark them and/or put a copyright on them. If they do NOT have the watermark or the copyright then the pictures are fair game due to how the internet works. I am not saying this is right but you have to see it from a judge’s point of view if he up holds the law for a picture that my family made but you download the same picture just by viewing the web site they he needs to place judgment on you too. All professional GFX people I work with put a watermark of some sort on their work, there is no doubt where the work came from or who made it. Putting it on the internet without such a mark is just plan crazy if you are getting paid for your work or you don’t want it stolen.

I also agree if you ask the artist for permission 90% of the time they will give you permission. Artists are wonderful giving people I come from a long line of them.

Just like all the people here that give their time freely to help people with their IT issues.
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05 Apr 2010   #32
MadMaxData

Windows 7 Enterprise x64
 
 

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Negative; not all websites are copyrighted. I am co-admin of one which is not.
Wroooong. Every website on the internet is copyrighted. Look it up.
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05 Apr 2010   #33
MadMaxData

Windows 7 Enterprise x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by WindowsStar View Post
@MadMaxData you are right about the copyright, however it does not hold up in court. My dad, uncle and a long list of friends are professional photographers and now are GFX people. There was a law suit because of downloaded pictures from our web site and guess what we lost because the pictures were not copyrighted or watermarked, even though the site was copyrighted. The problem here is that since your web browser downloads the pictures they are on your computer when you view the web site so then just browsing the web page would be considered stealing.
That's odd. I know a woman who was involved in a lawsuit like that, and the judge ruled in her favor. He said the images were the property of the domain (DNS). Perhaps your family could have used a better attorney.

Parks are public places too, but I can't go and rip off their picnic benches, grills, and garbage cans....LOL...same thing. The city/state owns the park, just like the DNS owns a website. But like I said, I really don't care what you guys do concerning images. But I do know the law, from firsthand experience.

I'm just going to keep any further comments to myself. I can see where this is going.
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05 Apr 2010   #34
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadMaxData View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CarlTR6 View Post
Negative; not all websites are copyrighted. I am co-admin of one which is not.
Wroooong. Every website on the internet is copyrighted. Look it up.
Since he is co-admin to a website, it would seem that he should know whether it is copyrighted or not. If one website exists that is not copyrighted, it would seem that others might also. If you have information otherwise, the you should provide that, rather than telling us to "look it up".
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05 Apr 2010   #35
MadMaxData

Windows 7 Enterprise x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadMaxData View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CarlTR6 View Post
Negative; not all websites are copyrighted. I am co-admin of one which is not.
Wroooong. Every website on the internet is copyrighted. Look it up.
Since he is co-admin to a website, it would seem that he should know whether it is copyrighted or not. If one website exists that is not copyrighted, it would seem that others might also. If you have information otherwise, the you should provide that, rather than telling us to "look it up".
I'll pass. Believe what you want.
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05 Apr 2010   #36
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadMaxData View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by WindowsStar View Post
@MadMaxData you are right about the copyright, however it does not hold up in court. My dad, uncle and a long list of friends are professional photographers and now are GFX people. There was a law suit because of downloaded pictures from our web site and guess what we lost because the pictures were not copyrighted or watermarked, even though the site was copyrighted. The problem here is that since your web browser downloads the pictures they are on your computer when you view the web site so then just browsing the web page would be considered stealing.
That's odd. I know a woman who was involved in a lawsuit like that, and the judge ruled in her favor. He said the images were the property of the domain (DNS). Perhaps your family could have used a better attorney.

Parks are public places too, but I can't go and rip off their picnic benches, grills, and garbage cans....LOL...same thing. The city/state owns the park, just like the DNS owns a website. But like I said, I really don't care what you guys do concerning images. But I do know the law, from firsthand experience.

I'm just going to keep any further comments to myself. I can see where this is going.
A DNS is totally different than a host server that has websites. A person can use many different DNS servers to navigate to different website. Until recently, I used Google DNS, but Google did not own any of the website that I went to...except Google itself.

As for image ownership, Google Images provides zillions of images, without regard to ownership.
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05 Apr 2010   #37
LADYPINKtomato1

Windows 8 - 64-bit
 
 

Quite a few PSP groups.. are very careful how they handle their designs.. and state such plainly on their web sites.. YOU or I know not to take those.. would never take anyones.. creations .. those things take hours or days to creat..plus there are layers upon layers to each one.
I'm very ethical.. I never think of taking their work.
I would / request a tag with my nick on it.. .. from them.. which is usually given freely.. I have thousands of gorgeous tags.. last time I checked I had over 30,000 tags.. all kinds for all kinds of ocassions.holidays.. birthdays..
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05 Apr 2010   #38
LADYPINKtomato1

Windows 8 - 64-bit
 
 

Graphice created .. by people are rarely posted to webpages.. if they go on webpages one has little to no way to control who or how it is used..
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05 Apr 2010   #39
ForeverZero89

Win7 HP x64
 
 

if you get it from the internet you are getting a copy and not the original, therefore it has no value. if you don't want other people to have a copy of your pic, don't put it up on the 'net. thats the only way.
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06 Apr 2010   #40
LADYPINKtomato1

Windows 8 - 64-bit
 
 

Forever.. exactly !!!.. once it's out there.. it's free game to any and all.
YOU really shouldn't show your car tag on the net.. not safe
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