Rapidshare hand out uploader's details, house raided

z3r010 said:

here ya go, a little light reading.

None of which require uk isps to examine and report, as was claimed.

in fact;

Data can only be obtained by a public
authority when it is necessary in a given
investigation

SIW2 said:

It is because of their stupid, selfish actions that our freedoms are being removed and everyone is being spied on.

No, it's because Rapidshare says in plain English that they do not tolerate the uploading of illegal material. And they also say this in bold:

At violation of our Conditions of use, we are authorized to block your access and delete your files. If you write programs aiming to violate our Conditions of Use, you will be prosecuted and made liable for any losses occurred.

You're a moron if you use RS and don't know this.

PS - The first Napster court case was 10 years ago. Copyright battles have been fought since copyrights were invented. If you don't like that, fine. But geez - at least stop being surprised.

Orbital Shark said:

You want to be careful who you call 'Moron' on this forum. It's just so uncalled for....

He's right though, if you are going to distribute pirate material, you should at least read the terms and conditions of the distribution medium, not to would be stupid.

The fact they only need to retain the information for a set period is a practical matter connected to storage requirements.

It is not relevant to Win7's question.

What details exactly can they give out though witout breaking the law themselfs??

...And then be right on to rapidshare for giving out such "private" info...

Like many, he believes his data and privacy are protected by the law - in fact the opposite is true.

The requirement is to retain the information ( albeit for a limited period at present) and to hand it over if the authorities have good reason to believe there is illegal activity.

According to the link,

At first it was unclear how the identity of the uploader was revealed, but today German news outlet Gulli said
it had found out that this was likely to be accomplished by creative use of paragraph 101 of German copyright law.

My point about RS being forced to hand it over.

Orbital Shark said:

It could have been worded differently is all i'm getting at

"you" in the general sense. It wasn't directed to anyone specifically here. My apologies for any disconnect.

But, no, it could not have been worded differently. If you use RS, and the cops come knocking at your door, and you didn't know RS could prosecute you - my friend, you are a certified moron. RS does not hide the consequences.

Here's what I see:

Here coment right from TorrentFreak!
Rapidshare is Swiss based company!

"HEY!
Rapidshare is located in Switzerland and NOT in GERMANY!

The first is ’small an neutral’, the latter ‘big and misunderstood’.

Given that this simple fact is wrong, I start doubting the whole story.

Get your facts right ERNESTO! Gulli is also no news outlet but a fu…g big sausage-fest for idiots.

ok…let me summarize: they talked to a SWISS judge who then forces Rapidshare to hand over the IP. Then they have to go to a GERMAN judge who has to force the german ISP to hand over the address for that IP.

Sounds pretty complicated, given that as far as I know GERMAN law, this is not allowed."

Crap..