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Windows 7: Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill

03 May 2010   #31
MadMaxData

Windows 7 Enterprise x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lebon14 View Post
This is really bad... this is why we should stop using Oil and find another way of powering our machines...
I totally agree. And despite the efforts of a few posters to minimize the effect of oil spills by comparing them to nuclear disasters [that's comparing apples & oranges, not to mention thay aren't NEARLY as common] or dreaming that the earth "repairs itself" we still have significant amounts of oil remaining in Prince William Sound 20+ years after the Exxon Valdez spill.

I've just read about some other consequences of the Gulf spill today.
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03 May 2010   #32
smarteyeball

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadMaxData View Post

or dreaming that the earth "repairs itself" we still have significant amounts of oil remaining in Prince William Sound 20+ years after the Exxon Valdez spill.
Reality is dreaming?


20+ years from a timescale that spans billions is not dreaming.


If I'm one of the 'dreaming' posters you are alluding to, I suggest you re-read my post.


To simplify while reiterating - The physical structure we know as planet Earth can take it - It's the lifeforms that live on the planet which cannot.

With that clarification in mind, this accident will have adverse affects to the living for a long time to come.
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03 May 2010   #33
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote:
The physical structure we know as planet Earth can take it - It's the lifeforms that live on the planet which cannot
That is a pretty fatalistic statement. So if we are lucky, a few microbes may survive.
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04 May 2010   #34
pacinitaly

windows 7 professional & ultimate 64bit laptops
 
 

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04 May 2010   #35
MadMaxData

Windows 7 Enterprise x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
20+ years from a timescale that spans billions is not dreaming
The earth is not that old. Sorry, but I don't buy into carbon dating. It's not even close to accurate. I know there are plenty of people who would agree with you, however, I'm bound to a different covenant other than science. I believe the Biblical account of creation. As well as the Torah scholars who teach that the sun was much closer to the earth, pre-flood. This would explain the higher radiation levels, and carbon dating's inaccuracy. At any rate, the oil spills are negatively affecting a human inhabited earth. Therefore, they are indeed a threat to mankind. The earth's age has nothing to do with it. Our children and grandchildren do.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
That is a pretty fatalistic statement. So if we are lucky, a few microbes may survive.
Exactly!
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04 May 2010   #36
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadMaxData View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lebon14 View Post
This is really bad... this is why we should stop using Oil and find another way of powering our machines...
I totally agree. And despite the efforts of a few posters to minimize the effect of oil spills by comparing them to nuclear disasters [that's comparing apples & oranges, not to mention thay aren't NEARLY as common] or dreaming that the earth "repairs itself" we still have significant amounts of oil remaining in Prince William Sound 20+ years after the Exxon Valdez spill.

I've just read about some other consequences of the Gulf spill today.

Hi there

You only need ONE serious Nuclear accident --- with even the WORST Oil accident the damage is more or less repaired within 5 years.

EXXON VALDIZ was of ocurse a terrible disaster but SHIP technology as well as the technology of dealing with Oil Pollution has greatly improved in the last 20 years.

The effect of the CHERNOBYL accident will STILL be around in 100,000 YEARS time.

Of course we need alternative Energy - but it needs to be phased in PROPERLY and not with stupid schemes like Carbon Trading which will just make disgusting greedy Bankers - in particulary Goldman Sachs richer than they already are and not help the cause of reneweable and alternative Energy source one IOTA.

Governments need to introduce SENSIBLE AFFORDABLE schemes to usher in alternative Energy schemes rather than penalising current users as there currently is NO ALTERNATIVE practicable solution TODAY. There could be in the future but we need to get the Oil companioes on board as they are the only organisations with the CAPITAL and know how to begin to fund the investments needed for our transition away from fossil fuel.

Cheers
jimbo
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04 May 2010   #37
smarteyeball

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
That is a pretty fatalistic statement. So if we are lucky, a few microbes may survive.
We won't be lucky - the microbes will.

As for fatalistic -

That depends on whether you are a "Glass half Full, Glass half Empty or a simply acknowledge that a glass exists which contains a substance regardless of whether it's in the process of increasing or decreasing its contents" type of person.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MadMaxData View Post
I believe the Biblical account of creation.
And clearly I do not.

So to avoid any potential future ill will, let nothing more said in regards to that sort of thing, because I happen to find it offensive.
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04 May 2010   #38
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
So to avoid any potential future ill will, let nothing more said in regards to that sort of thing, because I happen to find it offensive.
Hmm, I don't find ideas that disagree with mine offensive at all. No one has a lock on the right ideas. I respect differing view points and ideas whether I agree with them or not. In all probability, there is truth in both. To reject and be offended by an opposing view is pretty dogmatic in itself.
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04 May 2010   #39
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CarlTR6 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
So to avoid any potential future ill will, let nothing more said in regards to that sort of thing, because I happen to find it offensive.
Hmm, I don't find ideas that disagree with mine offensive at all. No one has a lock on the right ideas. I respect differing view points and ideas whether I agree with them or not. In all probability, there is truth in both. To reject and be offended by an opposing view is pretty dogmatic in itself.
Well, it is hard to argue in the face of beliefs because beliefs are irrational and no logic or facts will change them. So any discussion is pretty useless and will ultimately only lead to dismay.
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04 May 2010   #40
CarlTR6

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by CarlTR6 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
So to avoid any potential future ill will, let nothing more said in regards to that sort of thing, because I happen to find it offensive.
Hmm, I don't find ideas that disagree with mine offensive at all. No one has a lock on the right ideas. I respect differing view points and ideas whether I agree with them or not. In all probability, there is truth in both. To reject and be offended by an opposing view is pretty dogmatic in itself.
Well, it is hard to argue in the face of beliefs because beliefs are irrational and no logic or facts will change them. So any discussion is pretty useless and will ultimately only lead to dismay.
I agree with you. But there is a difference between opting not to discuss beliefs - and I choose that option - and being offended by a different belief.
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