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Windows 7: Has anyone ever read this before...

17 Jun 2010   #11
Adrian

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
A few times,

32bit 4Gb Memory Limit Explained

regarding RAM for 32 bit Operating Systems

Maximum RAM Read on 32 bit systems

and probably a few more that I missed.

Still comes down to you want to use 4 GB or more, use 64 bit.
+1 Ken,
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21 Jun 2010   #12
Geoff Chappell

Windows Vista
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
Regardless, he is wrong. For one, he was running a XEON with PAE, which is specially made to break that barrier.
What in the article is made wrong by what you say? And by what logic?
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21 Jun 2010   #13
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Geoff Chappell View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
Regardless, he is wrong. For one, he was running a XEON with PAE, which is specially made to break that barrier.
What in the article is made wrong by what you say? And by what logic?
His screen shot showed he has an Intel Xeon processor for one. I know that those use a special architecture (I am not 100% sure about all this). They have PAE, which allows more RAM to be used on x32 systems.

A x32 OS cannot use more than about 3.25Gbs of RAM... Which is why his article is really not very accurate. He seems to think that any user can use more...

(If I am wrong, please correct me)

~Lordbob
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22 Jun 2010   #14
smarteyeball

 
 

Check who you are replying to LB
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22 Jun 2010   #15
si8mon

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
Check who you are replying to LB
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22 Jun 2010   #16
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
Check who you are replying to LB
He wrote it didn't he...

Well, I will stand by what I said.
If he can provide some outside sources showing that it is possible on a regular system (i.e. like a core 2 duo and a fairly standard motherboard) then I will concede.

~Lordbob

EDIT: Yup, he did. Geoff, no offense. What I am saying is not a personal offense, it just goes against what I know about x32 systems. If you are right, please show me. I mean no insult.
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22 Jun 2010   #17
WindowsStar

Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64)
 
 

I know for a fact that Windows can use more that 4GB of memory on 32bit. We have been running Windows 2000 Advanced Server (x86) with 8GB for years. As well as Windows Server 2003 (x86) with 8GB for years. Since most of Windows Server 2003 (x86) = Windows XP Professional (x86) then Windows XP Professional (x86), should be able to access more than 4GB. I do believe this is some sort of Microsoft limitation.

I have no intentions of trying to get a (x86) OS to run more than 4GB, because the plain fact is that a 32bit OS is old and 64bit needs to finally take over, it is a move in the right direction.

Interesting article to read.
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22 Jun 2010   #18
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by WindowsStar View Post
I know for a fact that Windows can use more that 4GB of memory on 32bit. We have been running Windows 2000 Advanced Server (x86) with 8GB for years. As well as Windows Server 2003 (x86) with 8GB for years. Since most of Windows Server 2003 (x86) = Windows XP Professional (x86) then Windows XP Professional (x86), should be able to access more than 4GB. I do believe this is some sort of Microsoft limitation.

I have no intentions of trying to get a (x86) OS to run more than 4GB, because the plain fact is that a 32bit OS is old and 64bit needs to finally take over, it is a move in the right direction.

Interesting article to read.
But is this possible on a non server architecture (such as Windows 7 Home Premium x32)?

~Lordbob
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22 Jun 2010   #19
WindowsStar

Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by WindowsStar View Post
I know for a fact that Windows can use more that 4GB of memory on 32bit. We have been running Windows 2000 Advanced Server (x86) with 8GB for years. As well as Windows Server 2003 (x86) with 8GB for years. Since most of Windows Server 2003 (x86) = Windows XP Professional (x86) then Windows XP Professional (x86), should be able to access more than 4GB. I do believe this is some sort of Microsoft limitation.

I have no intentions of trying to get a (x86) OS to run more than 4GB, because the plain fact is that a 32bit OS is old and 64bit needs to finally take over, it is a move in the right direction.

Interesting article to read.
But is this possible on a non server architecture (such as Windows 7 Home Premium x32)?

~Lordbob
I would be tempted to say yes. Many of our servers now 10 years old were bleeding edge technology at the time but are only P3 or P4 CPUs non-Xeon. That server technology a few years later became Desktop technology.
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22 Jun 2010   #20
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Geoff Chappell View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
Regardless, he is wrong. For one, he was running a XEON with PAE, which is specially made to break that barrier.
What in the article is made wrong by what you say? And by what logic?

This right here is hillarious...




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