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Windows 7: Wonderful English from Around the World

30 Jun 2010   #21
Kari

 

Personally, prepositions are the most difficult part of English for me. I never know, or I think I know but I', not sure, if it's in or on, to or for etc.

For instance, take the first sentence of this post. To my ear it sounds correct to say it as I wrote it, but it sounds as correct if I end that sentence in English for me, in English to me or of English to me.
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30 Jun 2010   #22
noobvious

Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 (desktop)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
Learning English first also handicaps a person trying to learn nearly any other language, simply because the grammar is backwards from most other languages.
That is an excellent point!
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30 Jun 2010   #23
DarkStar GT

Windows Home Premium (64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen View Post
Through a tough thorough thought we slapped down the dough and bought the iPad.

Then noticing our mistake, promptly returned it.

*note the last ones dough matches thorough and bought matches thought so This has only 4 different pronunciations of ough
No, you're Ok - you've got 5. "Thorough" is generally pronounced "thuh-ruh" - with the "uh" sounding like Elvis' "uh uh"
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30 Jun 2010   #24
RST101

Windows 7 Ultimate x64.
 
 

There are also other difficulties but one of the main obstacles to overcome is homophones, words that sound alike but have completely different meaning ie their and there, where and wear, stair and stare, rein, rain and reign, weather and whether. There are many many more and for a foreign tongue these are the hardest to get your head around(or so I believe)

Thanks for that soundbite greatblessings, wonderful.
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30 Jun 2010   #25
mpcrsc562

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

One thing I've long thought odd is how some words are transformed, but lose their original meaning.

Example:
horror and horrific - both word indicate fear
terror and terrific - terror indicates fear whereas terrific indicates something great or grand. Odd.

I've also thougth that the English alphabet needs to be revamped -- to a more phonetically based alphabet.
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30 Jun 2010   #26
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

Personally, prepositions are the most difficult part of English for me
Personally, prepositions are the most difficult part in English for me
Personally, prepositions are the most difficult part in English to me
Personally, prepositions are the most difficult part of English to me

All good.


in some instances, it doesn't work right
Of some instances, it doesn't work right <<<< this doesn't sound right
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30 Jun 2010   #27
Kari

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mpcrsc562 View Post
One thing I've long thought odd is how some words are transformed, but lose their original meaning.

Example:
horror and horrific - both word indicate fear
terror and terrific - terror indicates fear whereas terrific indicates something great or grand. Odd.

I've also thougth that the English alphabet needs to be revamped -- to a more phonetically based alphabet.
Some compound words are interesting. A good example is breakfast. Is it because you are fasting when you sleep, when you wake up you break fast?


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen View Post
Personally, prepositions are the most difficult part of English for me
Personally, prepositions are the most difficult part in English for me
Personally, prepositions are the most difficult part in English to me
Personally, prepositions are the most difficult part of English to me

All good.


in some instances, it doesn't work right
Of some instances, it doesn't work right <<<< this doesn't sound right
Thanks for confusing me even more...
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30 Jun 2010   #28
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen View Post
Personally, prepositions are the most difficult part of English for me
Personally, prepositions are the most difficult part in English for me
Personally, prepositions are the most difficult part in English to me
Personally, prepositions are the most difficult part of English to me

All good.


in some instances, it doesn't work right
Of some instances, it doesn't work right <<<< this doesn't sound right
Thanks for confusing me even more...

Actually (sorry for confusing you btw)

that last one "Of some instances, it doesn't work right" this actually in this context sort of sounds right.....

but again sorry for confusing to you of me?
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30 Jun 2010   #29
DarkStar GT

Windows Home Premium (64)
 
 

If you go to the cinema to watch Mad Max, The Thunderdome Scene is a part of the film but Mel Gibson has a part in the film.
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30 Jun 2010   #30
Scotteq

Windows 7 (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
Ive always heard English is the hardest language to learn.

When you really start to think about and look at things like this, it's no wonder why.
Speaking as a former ESL instructor... For what it's worth the various dialects of Chinese are supposed to be the most difficult for non native/western speakers to learn. Chinese is a "Tone" language, where "How" you say a given syllable changes it's meaning. For example, Chinese has a steady tone, a falling tone, a rising tone, high~low~high, Low~high~low.. and the same syllable on paper - say 'Ma' - can, and usually does have a completely different meaning depending on which tone the speaker used. Arabic is right up there with Chinese in difficulty. Russian, Hungarian, and Basque are also supposed to be among the most difficult.

Where you were raised obviously has a great influence: I lived in Japan for a long time, and native Romance language speakers (French, Spanish, Italian) had relatively little trouble learning to speak Japanese because structurally they are similar: Subject/Object/Verb, and you denote time and motion by conjugating the verb with various relatively standard endings.

Of course... Writing in Japanese, on the other hand... < shudder >




English is just hard because we have all these rules that we don't follow, and a penchant for highly creative usage.


Though I must admit to the numberous possiblities due to the crucial role punctuation plays in English

I helped my uncle, Jack, off his horse




(yah... it's a really old joke, but...)
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