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Windows 7: Have mercy on the Less experienced!

18 Jul 2009   #71
Antman

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
You will find that once you start using it and get used to it, that XP's way seems rudimentary...
I did not like breadcrumbs when I first "tasted" it. I just wanted my arrow back. Now, I cannot imagine not having it. My mouse mileage has dropped significantly.

There was a time when I hated Windows. What the hell did I need a mouse for? Freakin' MS.


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18 Jul 2009   #72
system001

Windows 7 RC Build 7100 x86 / Windows Vista SP2
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
You paid for them in that OS, not in 7. Just cause it is Windows, doesn't mean it's a continuation of the same old same old. Things change, some for better, some for not, some are not even missed.

Breadcrumbs are actually a lot better than all the buttons we had before to navigate.

Breadcrumbs are far more powerful and precise. You can pretty much get to any parent folder you want once you start drilling down to sub-folders you want. You need to use the little arrows between names. You will find that once you start using it and get used to it, that XP's way seems rudimentary.

i will give that sometime after build 7100 microsoft added back in restore previous folders at logon, and the bread crumbs do nicely in replacing the up button, however as stated above we are still missing items we paid for.

Restore previous folders at login IS still there... see attachment
if you would bother to read the entire thread you would see that there is more missing than these two items. you are the second person that seems to only want to focus in onto these two items only.
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18 Jul 2009   #73
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Honestly, I am at work and using 7 in a Portable Vbox on an XP machine.
A lot of the work I must do, I do in XP, but more of my time is spent in 7.
I can float between the 2 with great ease and not be lost.
But I prefer 7. Infact, I am trying (at times) to do all my work in the VM, but certain things just don't allow for it unfortunately.

I will not miss XP when it is gone.

So, whatever is missing, apparently, I am not missing it in 7.

And no, I did not go all the way back and read the rest of the thread and I am not going to focus on every little pithy thing that gets mentioned or complained about.


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or maybe I will
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18 Jul 2009   #74
Antman

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by system001 View Post
if you would bother to read the entire thread you would see that there is more missing than these two items. you are the second person that seems to only want to focus in onto these two items only.
He is not the only person ignoring some of the ill-informed and inane comments you have made. Personally, I am having mercy on the less experienced. In your last burst of rudeness you referenced three concerns and only counted two. I count five ideas in Tepid's referenced comment - and I am only vaguely interested.

Perhaps you should read things more thoroughly. No one is committed to addressing each and every point in a comment. This is not a linear discussion limited to participants incapable of abstraction. Likewise, Windows development is not a linear process. Rather, it is an abstraction of historical development.

This thread is contained in the Customization section of SevenForums. There is a Tutorials section also. In time, you will become more familiar with the Windows 7 operating system. In due course, you will be better suited to choose an operating system that meets the majority of your usage requirements. In the meantime, make the most of what you have.
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18 Jul 2009   #75
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

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try again. what people complained about xp was not its stability, rather that it had a extremely high learning curve versus 98 and the fact that the ui looked more like something a child through together. vista pre sp1 was a nightmare. post sp1 it ran great.
Yes, that is also what people complained about, which I did not mention. But,...

"extremely high learning curve versus 98 and the fact that the ui looked more like something a child through together"

Is this also what people are yapping about with Vista/7?

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cannot hide the action flag, cannot hide the speaker icon
Yes you can, and if you can't figure it out, then you need to stop talking.

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in 7 if you hide the navigation pane in one folder 7 makes it universal across all folders.
Just like in XP. Setting to Windows Classic mode does the exact same thing in XP.
Please, you need to stop talking. You do not know what you are talkign about, AT ALL. Or are you just a troll?
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18 Jul 2009   #76
system001

Windows 7 RC Build 7100 x86 / Windows Vista SP2
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
Yes, that is also what people complained about, which I did not mention. But,...

"extremely high learning curve versus 98 and the fact that the ui looked more like something a child through together"

Is this also what people are yapping about with Vista/7?



Yes you can, and if you can't figure it out, then you need to stop talking.



Just like in XP. Setting to Windows Classic mode does the exact same thing in XP.
Please, you need to stop talking. You do not know what you are talkign about, AT ALL. Or are you just a troll?
the only way to get some of the system tray icons to show is to set the new syystray to show all icons and notifications. dragging the flag all the way to the right or the left does not hide it. as for the speaker icon i just rechecked the sounds properties again and it cannot be removed from the systray.

i quite well know what i am talking about. you need to keep you personal comments out of the conversation or stay out of it.
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18 Jul 2009   #77
Antman

 

I am using my HTPC right now, so I cannot boot to see if the Volume icon disappears from the SysTray/Notification Area as the Group Policy Editor states that it will.


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18 Jul 2009   #78
cbleman

XP Media Edition / Vista /Win 7 Home Premium
 
 

Whose bright idea was it to hide that menu bar by default anyway. It didn't take long to find and unhide it, but for some I feel, it would be difficult to find.
Without tools, you cannot configure anything. If you don't have the experience to find something, good luck. it might as well be gone.

allow me to disagree about a wide user base using an option not being right. There are sometimes several ways to do things in Windows. I do what’s comfortable to me. Someone else might do it another way. That doesn’t make their way wrong, or my way better. If a wide user base is doing something a certain way; who am I to take that option away because I feel there is a better (or more correct) way. Are these really upgrades??... or just forcing user patterns. Comfort is good. You shouldn’t have to use an OS that gets more alien every three years. Yes… I agree there is a limit; I don’t want everyone to go back to the command prompt, but “Power to the people!" (By the way…. What ever did happen to debug. Does anyone know?)

I also agree, that MS deletes or hides some very good things with each revision, going all the way back to DOS. As things hide, or go away, my list of third party software gets bigger. I too would like an OS that relied on less 3rd party apps. I’m not suggesting throw in the kitchen sink, but having back some of the wonderful tools MS took away would be nice.

(I think I can get used to bread crumbs.... I know some people don't like it, but the more I play with it, the more I like it. it just took getting used to. Yes Virginia, sometimes there is a better way.
It looks like my user pattern is being forced! AAAAAAA!!! hehehe)
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18 Jul 2009   #79
Antman

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cbleman View Post
...What ever did happen to debug. Does anyone know?...
Debug.exe is a 16-bit app. There are better modern debuggers.

I am playing with the menu bar and discovered right click the bread crumbs. Something I do all the time just got a lot easier. And I do not have to SHIFT+Right Click to Copy Path.

Keep bitchin' - it is helping me to learn numerous advances in productivity and usability.

Argue for your limitations and you get to keep them.
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18 Jul 2009   #80
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cbleman View Post
Mostly I rely on my directory structure, and the ability to format the view in a window when it comes up. I like the thumbs view for my pictures and music. A single picture without an open folder. If someone knows how I can get it back I would apreciate the info. I've been playing with it. ...so far to no avail. Under properties-customize-choose file, I just get the standard view. Changing optimize this folder for: dosn't seem to have any effect on the view. Creating a folder.jpg file didn't work either.
If you are talking about image file thumbnails and you are not seeing them while in icon or tile views, then open explorer and go to tools, folder options and uncheck "show icons never thumbnails".
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