Have mercy on the Less experienced!

Antman · 17 Jul 2009

cbleman said:

...I was hoping to avoid 3rd party apps to do something that XP already does...

I understand, I really do. BUTT, this what is wrong with MS OS products, not what is right. It is the core of the hate. It is the basis of all the lawsuits. It is why you don't have the choice to do it the way you want to.

cbleman said:

Apathy is not a virtue.

cbleman · 17 Jul 2009

I have said all along that the whole OS is not NDG. While it is true, people tend to focus on the negative, perhaps some of the comments/suggestions have merit. It IS quite overboard to file suit because Microsoft renamed a folder, or you cannot view icons the way you want.

Renaming/Hiding/removing even small things do have a tremendous impact on a huge user base. What I’m asking is that MS keep this in mind when they revise/revamp the OS. If it's not an improvement or an upgrade, why mess with it. Yes, the chaff has to go, and a redesigned UI may not support the same options in the same place. how else would we move forward. User input (Like this forum) however, is important. one mans chaff is another’s treasure. Who decides. I would hope that user input matters, and if a large enough group clamors for an option/tool back, that it might eventually find its way back into the fold. If not, we are all whistling in the dark, and a small group will simply make unilateral decisions for the majority.

Let me revise my last post a little. Judging from the people who have participated in this thread, I realize I am not just one voice. If a more massive group joined the discussion however, who all would like or use... Well you get the picture

garbanzo · 17 Jul 2009

microsoft can't please all people all the time. if windows explorer looked like total commander, it would scare away 95% of all users

there will be things here and there that certain groups of users are not content with. i don't know any "power users" that don't run a 3rd party file manager. but this isn't a bad thing. it doesn't mean that the windows model is flawed. it just means some users desire a bit more control over how they use their machine.

cbleman · 17 Jul 2009

you are 100% right. Even I use third party apps to help me out. I was sending a plea not to change some particular aspects of the UI that were already there.

Total commander looks good. It might even be something I would consider.

garbanzo · 17 Jul 2009

TC is a good choice, especially since it's free. it's got a lot of features, it's extremely flexible, and its keyboard support is fantastic.

another nice free one is Xplorer2, which i used for about a year. there's a pro version to with a little more power.

but now, obviously, i use Directory Opus, which is quite far from being free. but i'm a customization freak, so DOpus is the only one for me. you can change everything - toolbars, menus, status bar... it's absolutely amazing.

here's my current setup. most of the top toolbar buttons have three functions - right click, middle click, and left click. the bar on the right launches current directories or selected files in various apps, and it can be toggled on/off.

http://i31.tinypic.com/2h72yw2.png

cbleman · 17 Jul 2009

Followed your link. Looks good!

system001 · 17 Jul 2009

garbanzo said:

microsoft can't please all people all the time. if windows explorer looked like total commander, it would scare away 95% of all users

there will be things here and there that certain groups of users are not content with. i don't know any "power users" that don't run a 3rd party file manager. but this isn't a bad thing. it doesn't mean that the windows model is flawed. it just means some users desire a bit more control over how they use their machine.

not buying the $%#@ about all power users third party file apps.

Antman · 17 Jul 2009

system001 said:

not buying the $%#@ about all power users third party file apps.

True dat. I have tried quite a few and always come back to Explorer. Mind you, I have highly customized context menus with a few self-developed commands. I have not tried DOpus simply because I have lost interest in file managers.

Charles Kane · 17 Jul 2009

garbanzo said:

TC is a good choice, especially since it's free.

Its not free! Its Shareware, one month trial, thereafter $US38 or EUR26.

cbleman · 17 Jul 2009

Mostly I rely on my directory structure, and the ability to format the view in a window when it comes up. I like the thumbs view for my pictures and music. A single picture without an open folder. If someone knows how I can get it back I would apreciate the info. I've been playing with it. ...so far to no avail. Under properties-customize-choose file, I just get the standard view. Changing optimize this folder for: dosn't seem to have any effect on the view. Creating a folder.jpg file didn't work either.