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Windows 7: Windows 7 - Default Profile. How can I edit it?

17 Nov 2009   #71
Darryl Licht

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
 
 

Roasted:

The MS process is still largely unchanged from the past as far as creating and deploying an image the MS way. Why dont you create a seperate image for each unique classroom or lab? You'd need an external HDD to store the images on, but wouldnt that accomplish the same thing as copying a profile. More work creating seperate images for each machine type and lab or classroom... but wouldnt that do the trick?


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18 Nov 2009   #72
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Roasted:

Obviously all of our solutions do not work, or you just don't like them
How about finding another solution, or keep using what you are instead of bashing all of our help?

We have come up with everything we can, and it has all been rejected...

~Lordbob
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18 Nov 2009   #73
Roasted

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Darryl Licht View Post
Roasted:

The MS process is still largely unchanged from the past as far as creating and deploying an image the MS way. Why dont you create a seperate image for each unique classroom or lab? You'd need an external HDD to store the images on, but wouldnt that accomplish the same thing as copying a profile. More work creating seperate images for each machine type and lab or classroom... but wouldnt that do the trick?
You nailed it. That's exactly what I do with FOG. I have a computer that is essentially the FOG server, which has 2 drives in it that back each other up. Within this computer I have a simple folder called images. Then it breaks down by school, then in each school, different labs, library, etc. So I do have set up exactly what you suggested. It's AMAZING how quickly different images can stack up. In the high school alone we have about a dozen different images, just from the business lab, photoshop lab, cadd lab, graphics lab, library, etc etc. It's a system that works out nicely, but MAN am I glad I started a decent naming convention from the very beginning - otherwise I'd be lost now.



Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
Roasted:

Obviously all of our solutions do not work, or you just don't like them
How about finding another solution, or keep using what you are instead of bashing all of our help?

We have come up with everything we can, and it has all been rejected...

~Lordbob
Lordbob:

I suggest you take the time to read over the entire contents of this thread. Discussed in this thread were different ways to edit the default profile of Windows 7, all of which seemed to be recommended to me based on the same directions of Windows Vista, assuming it would work in the same manner. I did however find, both based on personal experience along with numerous other sources, that the CopyProfile option with sysprep in Windows 7 does not function in the manner it should.

In short - I have followed the directions and suggestions given to me. It's not that I ignored them, they simply just... failed.

We are (unfortunately) dropping back to Windows Vista, since their sysprep CopyProfile feature works. Though it's more steps than what was used in XP, and kind of cumbersome, we're still doing what we can to leave personal opinion out of it and get these systems out there in the classrooms for the student's sake.
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18 Nov 2009   #74
Darryl Licht

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Roasted View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Darryl Licht View Post
Roasted:

The MS process is still largely unchanged from the past as far as creating and deploying an image the MS way. Why dont you create a seperate image for each unique classroom or lab? You'd need an external HDD to store the images on, but wouldnt that accomplish the same thing as copying a profile. More work creating seperate images for each machine type and lab or classroom... but wouldnt that do the trick?
You nailed it. That's exactly what I do with FOG. I have a computer that is essentially the FOG server, which has 2 drives in it that back each other up. Within this computer I have a simple folder called images. Then it breaks down by school, then in each school, different labs, library, etc. So I do have set up exactly what you suggested. It's AMAZING how quickly different images can stack up. In the high school alone we have about a dozen different images, just from the business lab, photoshop lab, cadd lab, graphics lab, library, etc etc. It's a system that works out nicely, but MAN am I glad I started a decent naming convention from the very beginning - otherwise I'd be lost now.
If you created a default profile and user name when you made the image, what's the problem if you are a workgroup and not a domain?

Yes your naming convention for your images is mucho importante! Our large campus is pretty easy for this... each building has a different #. The 900 building for example has rooms all in the 900's... so we name our images 975_FA09 for example. We also identified the apps and settings that remain unchanged and have a base image for each machine. This makes building a new image a breeze!

At the community college level the classes taught in each room from semester to semester vary very little... instructors must request any changes needed to a room image usually no later than 2 weeks prior to the start of a new term.
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18 Nov 2009   #75
Roasted

Ubuntu
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Darryl Licht View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Roasted View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Darryl Licht View Post
Roasted:

The MS process is still largely unchanged from the past as far as creating and deploying an image the MS way. Why dont you create a seperate image for each unique classroom or lab? You'd need an external HDD to store the images on, but wouldnt that accomplish the same thing as copying a profile. More work creating seperate images for each machine type and lab or classroom... but wouldnt that do the trick?
You nailed it. That's exactly what I do with FOG. I have a computer that is essentially the FOG server, which has 2 drives in it that back each other up. Within this computer I have a simple folder called images. Then it breaks down by school, then in each school, different labs, library, etc. So I do have set up exactly what you suggested. It's AMAZING how quickly different images can stack up. In the high school alone we have about a dozen different images, just from the business lab, photoshop lab, cadd lab, graphics lab, library, etc etc. It's a system that works out nicely, but MAN am I glad I started a decent naming convention from the very beginning - otherwise I'd be lost now.
If you created a default profile and user name when you made the image, what's the problem if you are a workgroup and not a domain?
*shrug* Not sure I follow... We ARE on a domain. Were you thinking I was on a workgroup?
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18 Nov 2009   #76
Darryl Licht

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OK... didnt remember. If your image is a member of domain and all users in a classroom use same profile, whats the issue?
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18 Nov 2009   #77
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Roasted View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
Roasted:

Obviously all of our solutions do not work, or you just don't like them
How about finding another solution, or keep using what you are instead of bashing all of our help?

We have come up with everything we can, and it has all been rejected...

~Lordbob
Lordbob:

I suggest you take the time to read over the entire contents of this thread. Discussed in this thread were different ways to edit the default profile of Windows 7, all of which seemed to be recommended to me based on the same directions of Windows Vista, assuming it would work in the same manner. I did however find, both based on personal experience along with numerous other sources, that the CopyProfile option with sysprep in Windows 7 does not function in the manner it should.

In short - I have followed the directions and suggestions given to me. It's not that I ignored them, they simply just... failed.

We are (unfortunately) dropping back to Windows Vista, since their sysprep CopyProfile feature works. Though it's more steps than what was used in XP, and kind of cumbersome, we're still doing what we can to leave personal opinion out of it and get these systems out there in the classrooms for the student's sake.
I have been following this thread from the beginning.... My point is simply that we are now beating a dead horse. Since MS apparently can't make a product correctly to you, I would recommend finding something else.

No, I am sorry that I do not know the answer to the original question, nor did my other suggestion work. However, constantly bashing each and every solution wears me down.

I am done with this thread; good luck on your quest for the Grail.

~Lordbob
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18 Nov 2009   #78
Darryl Licht

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
 
 

Roasted:

I dont believe anyone suggested trying the USMT 4.0... User State Migration Tool is part of the WAIK. It allows you to capture user accounts, user files, and OS and app settings. Maybe these links will help:

What's New in USMT 4.0

User State Migration Tool 4.0 User's Guide

http://sqlblog.com/blogs/john_paul_c...n-install.aspx

Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta | Media | TechNet Edge
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09 Dec 2009   #79
Bob2

Windows 7
 
 

Thank for the warning. It sounds way to complicated for me on a home computer network with two computers and three profiles. I quess I will just try manually to set up the same profiles for each user.
Perhaps someone can come up with a simple method to accomplish this.
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02 Feb 2010   #80
MihaG

win xp
 
 

Hello!
I am new here, and first of all I would like to apologies for my mistakes in English language.
I was reading trought 8 pages of posts regarding problems with Default user profile.
Recently I installed Windows 7 profesional on one computer, not in a Domain, not in any network, so it is a single computer with 3 to 4 different users. So I want to setup Default user profile as i used to do in Win XP.
I setup new account with administrator rights, instal and setup all aplications (Office, AdobeReader, IE8-default page, temporary directories, etc..). Next step was to login as administrator, go to control panel, system, advanced, user profiles, select profile, copy to -OOOps, it is grayed out! Said to myself OK, I will try dumb copying one profile to another (to Default user). Not all the settings were transfered from one account to Default user profile.
My question is, is there a correct way to do it, regarding my previous statement (one computer, not in a Domain, not in any network, so it is a single computer with 3 to 4 different users)!
Trough this 8 pages, I didnt find all-in-one solution.
Than you!

MihaG
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