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Windows 7: Intel Rapid Storage Technology: overtaxes system

18 Feb 2011   #11
Hogtowner

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

@ sygnus21: it was APC Powerchute. Now that I know what the problem was (and it has not resurfaced since I took the RAID array off its power-down), I will probably reinstall it. I know that the greener setting is just an option, and I can keep the RAID active, even with the UPS software installed. I like the idea of checking the battery, and compiling failure stats.

@NoN: I never disabled the disk caching, because this system has always been on a UPS. The crazy thing about UPSs, you will have noticed, is that it is sometimes cheaper to replace the a unit with a new one, than it is to replace the battery of an older one. Lousy idea from an ecological standpoint, but that's capitalism as currently played. Anyway, this was a replacement system, and an upgrade to APC from a no-name system.

It is important also, I think, to note that the RAID 1 array was the one that generated the spurious? errors. My RAID 1 array slept without problems.


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18 Feb 2011   #12
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hogtowner View Post
@ sygnus21: it was APC Powerchute. Now that I know what the problem was (and it has not resurfaced since I took the RAID array off its power-down), I will probably reinstall it. I know that the greener setting is just an option, and I can keep the RAID active, even with the UPS software installed. I like the idea of checking the battery, and compiling failure stats.
Thanks that's the software I use though I don't have a RAID array, but as you noted it was more a power management issue as opposed to the software itself.

Glad to hear you got the issue sorted.

Later.
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18 Feb 2011   #13
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

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Lousy idea from an ecological standpoint, but that's capitalism as currently played.
Hope this doesn't come across as preachy or anything,, just informational....

I doubt it has anything to do with straight capitalism. It's batteries in general.
Batteries for cars are just as bad, it's just not economical to sell replacements at a cheaper price than what it costs to make them, you get a discount when buying new, because the company gets a discount when creating their products new, they don't typically get the replacements at the same price.

Figure the cost of anything (like Cell Phones, Video Camers etc) that use a rechargeable battery, the replacement batteries are not cheap, but the phone was with a contract. So, how often do people actually replace their battery in a cell phone before re-upping to a new phone? Not often.
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18 Feb 2011   #14
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hogtowner View Post
The crazy thing about UPSs, you will have noticed, is that it is sometimes cheaper to replace the a unit with a new one, than it is to replace the battery of an older one. Lousy idea from an ecological standpoint, but that's capitalism as currently played.
I happen to agree with the lousy idea statement. Having to replace the whole unit as opposed to just the battery is lousy. It may be financially feasible to the company (capitalism) but that doesn't make it right for the consumers, or environment.

Electric cars would be cheaper (more feasible)..... If the oil companies (gas) weren't a factor

Anyways these debates can get contentious so I'll just move on.

Peace
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18 Feb 2011   #15
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

It's the cost of doing business in general.
No one, and I do mean no one is going to sell products for less than what it costs to make them.
Regardless of any other factors, period .

Not trying to ignite a debate. Just stating facts.

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Electric cars would be cheaper (more feasible)..... If the oil companies (gas) weren't a factor
No they wouldn't. It's what I call initial market release pricing.
EVERYone does it and has to, to recoup the cost of development.
As well as initial marketing campaigns, and product promotion.
It's why Processors, GPU's and other hardware start off at around upwards of $1000 ......

It is what it is, regardless of who it is.

It is a guarantee that price regulation will absolutely stifle innovation.

Which is why you will get a tax break on purchasing a new electric car, cause otherwise, no one can afford them, it has nothing to do with the oil companies. New Product Pricing. And it will go on till the end of time, regardless of all other factors.
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18 Feb 2011   #16
brady

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by brady View Post
Intel management software is best left uninstalled.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
Care to elaborate on that statement?

The firmware based raid controller doesn't communicate well. If you have a raid configuration error during/post installation there is no way to determine what actually broke the array. Could be anything from driver to disk failure, yet they both appear identicle.

When compared to hardware or software based controllers, the Intel management software falls flat when things go wrong. With so many software based controllers available the lack of communication during failures isn't efficient for administrative or engineering depts.
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18 Feb 2011   #17
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Since I don't use RAID myself I can't debate what you say other than there are others including the OP that's using it without issue. Now you may say but the OP posted an issue on them.... yeah he did... and then came back and stated the issue was a power management issue, not IRST.

At any rate my question had more to do with your original generalized statement. Thanks for clarifying.

@ Tepid, we'll agree to disagree agreeably.

Peace
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18 Feb 2011   #18
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

one can disagree with opinion, but not fact.

Let me quote myself,,,

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It's why Processors, GPU's and other hardware start off at around upwards of $1000 ......
and without trying to be sarcastic,,, would that be attributed to the oil companies (gas) also? or just the cost of doing business? or dare i say it,, greed.

As i think I have made my point, I will make this my last post to this thread.
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29 Apr 2011   #19
elbeasto

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by brady View Post
Intel management software is best left uninstalled.
I agree, I just bought an 1155 board and forgot to install the IRST software initially but after I did, I have experienced a few lock ups.

I plan on uninstalling it as win 7 ran fine without it.

The only thing is that it's a software/drivers package so I'm not too sure weather I should uninstall the drivers as well.

I suppose it should be OK, there were no yellow exclamation points in device manager before installing them.
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01 May 2011   #20
Cr00zng

Windows 7 64-bit, Windows 8.1 64-bit, OSX El Capitan, Windows 10 (VMware)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by elbeasto View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by brady View Post
Intel management software is best left uninstalled.
I agree, I just bought an 1155 board and forgot to install the IRST software initially but after I did, I have experienced a few lock ups.

I plan on uninstalling it as win 7 ran fine without it.

The only thing is that it's a software/drivers package so I'm not too sure weather I should uninstall the drivers as well.

I suppose it should be OK, there were no yellow exclamation points in device manager before installing them.
My newly built 1155 board experienced the same lock ups or freezes that had been traced to the Intel Rapid Storage Technology software, issue and resolution posted here. Uninstalling the software/drivers resolved the issue with no negative impact.
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