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Windows 7: Swapfile question

22 Jan 2009   #11
Beginning

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 

Oh alright... I won't try it, Not that crashing both installs worries me, but reinstalling the whole 9 yards over again is no picnic.. But hey the topic seemed to be an interesting idea at the moment.. Thanks for the input there johngalt everyone else..



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22 Jan 2009   #12
johngalt

 

I admit some curiosity as to whether this could be readily accomplished....

Then again, with the power of today's machines, the need to dual boot seems to be decreasing as more and more people learn about virtualization....
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22 Jan 2009   #13
smarteyeball

 
 

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smarteyeball - Hehehe... although it's not rocket science to reinstall everything now is it? It's just time consuming...
Never said it was As for time consuming.... that tends to get tedious after awhile
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25 Jan 2009   #14
Patrick C

Windows 7 Home - 64 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
I admit some curiosity as to whether this could be readily accomplished....

Then again, with the power of today's machines, the need to dual boot seems to be decreasing as more and more people learn about virtualization....
johngalt - I have a question here I have 64bit Vista & 64bit Windows 7 on the same HD. C:-Vista 105G; D:My Documents 40G; E:Windows 7. I can change the swap file on the Vista to a Min & Max of 7500. Windows 7 will only allow a system managed if 4137Min and recommended of 5457 (Not sure how the system sets that - Question 1)? The WEI for Vista is Processor-4.9; Memory Ram-5.9; Graphics-4.1; Gaming Graphics-3.8; Primary Harddisk-5.3==>Overall 3.8 AND for Windows 7 4.9, 5.9, 3.9, 5.3. 2.9==>Overall 2.9 --Notice the difference in the hard drive number on the SAME Harddrive? Question 2 and finally notice the difference in Gaming Graphics in Vista where ATI Catalyst Manager finsihed the install --3.8 and Vista where it wouldn't install--5.3? Question 3? - God's Speed with this one --Patrick C
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26 Jan 2009   #15
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Hello Patrick C.


In regards to your WEI: MS has revised the WEI ratings and they have been upgraded to reflect newer hardware that is/will be coming into use, hence the differences in the ratings.


Swap file: In XP days some performance gains could be realized by changing the swap file to a smaller footprint; but the way things are today it's better to allow Windows to manage the swap file; few if any gains will be achieved by limiting its size. In actuality, some are convinced that not allowing Windows to manage the swap file will limit some functions of the OS.

I hope this has answered some of your questions.








Later Ted
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30 Jan 2009   #16
Patrick C

Windows 7 Home - 64 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post
Hello Patrick C.


In regards to your WEI: MS has revised the WEI ratings and they have been upgraded to reflect newer hardware that is/will be coming into use, hence the differences in the ratings.


Swap file: In XP days some performance gains could be realized by changing the swap file to a smaller footprint; but the way things are today it's better to allow Windows to manage the swap file; few if any gains will be achieved by limiting its size. In actuality, some are convinced that not allowing Windows to manage the swap file will limit some functions of the OS.

I hope this has answered some of your questions.








Later Ted
Bare Foot Kid - I have been restructing My System for the last 3 - 4 days. I want to set up conditions where I have a Partition of the same size for both Vista Ultimate 64-bit & Windows 7 64-bit. I have each now on 100G partitions with 32.9 G for My Documents. I had to use a DiskManager to Partition the drives as the Windows Vista Disk Manager wouldn't let me divide up the drives as I wanted to. Ques. 1 Do you have any idea why? Next I have a HP and I restored the Hard drive using the restoration DVD's a person can make when they use a HP Computer. When I restored using the DVD's the Disk Manager & Vista didn't show the right size for the drives? Ques. 2 Any Idea why? Finally I Took a 64-Bit Vista Ultimate Installation DVD - and installed it to the C:, after I told the software to Format the drive before installing the software. I then took the Disk Manager software and partitioned as I wanted it to be. Wallah!!!! Everything is working good. I found out in the process that the 17.1 G ( 250 - 232.9G Size of HD) that cannot be accessed is for the System to hold information not accessible to the user. Ques. 3 And the most pertinent here ---- Windows Vista & Windows 7 make a 4316 MB swap file that the system can expand to 5375M. In Vista I can set both limits to 7500 MB which I was under the impression would be a good idea. In Windows 7 the swap file setting will not change. I have decided to let the System manage both and stop messing with software. I realize this is alot but I was wondering what You thought?? God's Speed and Thank you ahead of time for your posts on this Subject----Patrick C
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30 Jan 2009   #17
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Hello Patrick.

Q1: The Master File Table is probably the reason, I believe it is some time placed in an inconvenient location and only 3rd party partition managers can/will move it.

See This Article

Q2: In the past I have used an HP machine with an OEM installation of Vista; every time I decided to do a "recovery" I re-installed it from the "Recovery Partition" and not from the disks, so I'm no help with this.

If you are referring to the 17.1GB that seems to be "missing" from the 250GB HDD that is in the machine; it doesn't really exist (the 17.1) it's the way the manufacturer calculates the available disk space; so they can list it as a 250GB HDD instead of a 232.9GB HDD; just like my 500GB HDDs are only 465.1GBs each.

Yes just continue to let Vista and W7 manage the swap file; you'll be better off in the long run.

I hope this helps answer some questions!


Later Ted
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30 Jan 2009   #18
Patrick C

Windows 7 Home - 64 Bit
 
 

Bare Foot Kid - Thanks for the answers. So it isn't odd or the system harddrive controller isn't acting odd, if the first time I fired up the HP Laptop I was able to make partitions and then I had to have a 3rd party disk Manager after that? The system seems to be cookin now! Patrick C
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