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Windows 7: Windows update drivers or 'official'?

16 Oct 2017   #1
catroplo

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
Windows update drivers or 'official'?

Hello

I've been doing installations of Windows for a while now. But, now that I saw one tutorial here, do I have to install device drivers prior to Windows updates? I ask because I have an old motherboard and there's no support for Windows 7, but I've always installed them in Compatibility mode and after WU.
The network driver installs itself, it's like Windows does it. And I then install the one found on the mobo's website, so it's like I overwrite the one provided by Windows [update] (which I think has a later date). Am I doing wrong?

Asrock 775i65G R2.0

So, should I install these drivers and the run Windows update?

Thanks


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16 Oct 2017   #2
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
As long as you have internet connection it really doesn't matter otherwise it would be the one driver you'd need to manually install
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16 Oct 2017   #3
catroplo

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Thanks.

One more thing,
Quote:
**FSB1066-CPU is supported by overclocking only when you adopt an external VGA card and DDR400 CL2.5 memory modules.
I have the Core 2 quad Q6600 and a ATI Radeon HD 4650 and DDR400 CL3 ram (but this is not the issue)

Turns out I can't do a clean installation using the video card: after first restart of Windows installation, BSOD happens. According to Windows, reason being atikmdag.sys. Therefore it's not possible to finish. So, what I do is install Windows without the video card and without the CPU; I can't leave the CPU there 'cause it needs the card as stated in the quote.

When the desktop is ready, after finishing the installation of Windows, I shutdown and replace the CPU and plug the card, having disabled the on-board graphics and the processor in Device manager. Not to mention that, when Windows recognizes the card, it installs some drivers for AGP and other stuff. But, also, a driver for the Radeon that, if I restart as required, results in a BSOD. I have to disable display adapters in Device manager and then install the driver for the card.

Is ok to do that at that point or at all? Is there a safer way or process I should follow?
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16 Oct 2017   #4
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Hiyya mate can you please clarify what RAM you have do you mean DDR4 or DDR 400?? either way the processor is a tad out of it's place as those Q cores usually ran with DDR2 RAM unless I am terribly mistaken.

Just how old is this machine anyway??

Could you please follow this
Now before we can help we do need to know what is in your machine so please do this System Info - See Your System Specs
or either enter the specs of your system in your forum profile the specs will appear when we click on that little box bottom left of the post screen it is for me the preferable option as it is easy. As you may appreciate it is very hard when you donít know what one is working with for example a diesel or petrol engine. Please include what antivirus program you are using.
(pretyped to save time)


If you are getting BSOD's then if you can please follow these



Dump Files - Configure Windows to Create on BSOD
&
Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Posting Instructions
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17 Oct 2017   #5
mrjimphelps

Linux Mint 18.2 xfce 64-bit (VMWare host) / Windows 8.1 Pro 32-bit (VMWare guest)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by catroplo View Post
Thanks.

One more thing,
I have the Core 2 quad Q6600 and a ATI Radeon HD 4650 and DDR400 CL3 ram (but this is not the issue)

Turns out I can't do a clean installation using the video card: after first restart of Windows installation, BSOD happens. According to Windows, reason being atikmdag.sys. Therefore it's not possible to finish. So, what I do is install Windows without the video card and without the CPU; I can't leave the CPU there 'cause it needs the card as stated in the quote.

When the desktop is ready, after finishing the installation of Windows, I shutdown and replace the CPU and plug the card, having disabled the on-board graphics and the processor in Device manager. Not to mention that, when Windows recognizes the card, it installs some drivers for AGP and other stuff. But, also, a driver for the Radeon that, if I restart as required, results in a BSOD. I have to disable display adapters in Device manager and then install the driver for the card.

Is ok to do that at that point or at all? Is there a safer way or process I should follow?
This is actually a very clever solution (una solucion muy inteligente) to the problem you are facing. As ThrashZone stated above, you can install the drivers either before or after installing Windows. Since you can't install them before, if you can get Windows installed successfully, you can then install the drivers. You have found a way to get Windows installed successfully in spite of this problem, so I give you an A+ on your solution.

Sometimes the easiest way to install Windows on a computer is to simply copy the install from another computer. However, if you do it that way, you will then need to install most, if not all, of your drivers, in order for things to work correctly. I have done this successfully on several occasions. This is similar to what you have done here. The only concern I haven't mentioned with this approach is that you will have the same Windows license on both computers. The two computers will each need to have its own valid Windows license, so that issue will need to be addressed.
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17 Oct 2017   #6
catroplo

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

@ICIT2LOL
RAM is DDR 400. The motherboard is about 11 years old.

Specs:
Sapphire Radeon HD 4650 AGP
Desktop
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
Catalyst Software Suite 13.9
LG FLATRON L1718S 1280x1024 @60Hz VGA (DVI to VGA adapter)
Asrock 775i65G R2.0 - BIOS 3.30 version
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
Generic -I'd say- PSU, KTech EN60950 500W
2 GB RAM, two modules DDR400 1 GB, CL3


About the BSOD, I already made a post there (unsolved ), and here it's more about learning about these hardware changes, compatibility and installation of drivers.


Thank you
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17 Oct 2017   #7
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

OK mate now from what you have posted I can see a few things that are a little odd to me for starters you are trying to run Ultimate on 2GB RAM and an old form of RAM at that you should really have a minimum of 4GB RAM to run that version of Windows and I am still confused as to why the CPU is inserted onto an old board.
Now I don't want to sound bumptious but the machine does seem to e made up of some pretty odd components.

Now I am not sure why you cannot post the BSOD dumps it would make advising you on what to do.
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17 Oct 2017   #8
catroplo

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

My computer works perfectly with those components. I just can't overload the RAM by using a lot of things and stuff, but for basic tasks it works just alright.
I'm not sure you need 4 GB of RAM to be able to run Ultimate, can you confirm that? There were computers in the market with such RAM with stock Windows 8. I think it has to do with the type of RAM as well.
And this CPU is supported by my motherboard, it's in the specifications.
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18 Oct 2017   #9
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
4gb's of ram is a good minimum for running 64 bit it really doesn't matter which version of windows

Sort of interesting error without the amd gpu sort of states your over clocking the cpu if so restore to default bios settings.
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18 Oct 2017   #10
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

As Thrash Zone and I have both said mate 4GB required for the Ultimate and personally I would have to have that amount 64bit or 32bit on any version.

Now the other thing is you are using quite an old board and therefore an old version of RAM and if it is DDR1 then I don't think you are going to get the performance I am assuming you are after.
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