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Windows 7: MSI 880gm-E41 BUOS backup and upgrade procedures AHCI SATA RAID driver

10 Feb 2019   #31
Vineet Garg

Windows 7 Ultimate x32 With Sp1 + Vista Ultimate x32 with Sp1 & Sp2 !!
 
 

Hi,

1. My SSD is listed as ATA. Is that all
No, It is not all. ATA may stand for PATA ( IDE ) or SATA! But believing that you have switched well to AHCI in BIOS & its reflection in Device Manager thereafter, ensures it.
It seems at least one device is still using IDE!
So, to make it pretty sure, I again ask you to go to Disk Management Window, Navigate VIEW>TOP>DISK LIST & share the snap.
BIOS can also tell about it.

2. It has a notation about identifying as AHCI which is reassuring but still not sure if that is the performance advantage
Actually, An SSD should run better under AHCI, Still, you have to decide/compare whether there is any improvement in the performance at all! You should observe the system stability as well.
(a) Run the SSD under IDE in the same installation on the same machine & run different tests.
Then run SSD under AHCI in the same installation on the same machine & run different tests.
Compare the test results & get your truth.
(b) It is also possible that you get some good/exciting numbers in the results but the system is less stable. So, along with the good results, you have to also take in account the stability of the overall system. You can only find that by observation for some days.

3. A New Thought : We thought ATI Catalyst Install Manager is problematic but i doubt one can run/install RAID driver on IDE/AHCI but I am not sure about the locking!

Thanks & Regards. ...


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10 Feb 2019   #32
loninappleton

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Veneet,


Earlier I misunderstood your request for the disk managment screen.


I have it attached. We see some things here that look incomplete, but please advise on what you meant at 'a device using IDE.'


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MSI 880gm-E41 BUOS backup and upgrade procedures AHCI SATA RAID driver-disk-management-list.png  
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11 Feb 2019   #33
Vineet Garg

Windows 7 Ultimate x32 With Sp1 + Vista Ultimate x32 with Sp1 & Sp2 !!
 
 

Hi,
Thanks, Your snapshots made the things clearer.

1. I have edited point 1 in my last post.

2. We see some things here that look incomplete
What are those ?

3. what you meant at 'a device using IDE'
Its now clear that a device is using IDE & that is your CD/DVD drive. It is plugged in a IDE port itself ( Two IDE devices can be attached to your MB in all & one is already connected : CD/DVD Drive )
Its clear that SATA II ports ( 6 ports ) are set to AHCI now.

4. I think you totally missed one point. When you changed BIOS to use SATA II ports as AHCI, you had to reinstall the OS. If you follow the links, you won't need to reinstall OS & you will be switched to AHCI without any problem with the same installation.

( Additionally, I think you are planning to switch to SSDs on mass level, You can migrate OS from HDDs to SSDs easily with Macrium Reflect Free. But first you have to switch to AHCI with HDDs & then migrate OS from HDDs to SSDs with Macrium.
If you are ready/easy to make a fresh install on SSDs, just switch to AHCI in BIOS & then make a fresh install on SSDs itself. )

Anything else ? Please let me know.

Thanks & Regards. ...
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13 Feb 2019   #34
loninappleton

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Yes time to close and thanks for your patience. In long threads I don't catch everything. I just reread most of this and have bookmarked the "school me" thread to go over.
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14 Feb 2019   #35
Vineet Garg

Windows 7 Ultimate x32 With Sp1 + Vista Ultimate x32 with Sp1 & Sp2 !!
 
 

Hi,
Just to mention :
IDE & SATA Hard Disks are much different. For eg. Max Data Transfer Rate for an IDE hard disk may be up to 133 mb/sec where a SATA hard disk can support up to 6gb/sec. Yours SATA II supports 3gb/sec with hard disks.
your situation is much different than above. Both of your disks are SATA disks which are connected to SATA ports. It is only that you were using them as IDE devices with IDE drivers in the OS. So, I can't tell what exactly would be the difference!
Your BIOS allows to use SATA disks as IDE, SATA AHCI or SATA RAID.
The traditional IDE disks which are connected to IDE ports can't be used as AHCI/RAID (SATA )
You have 6 SATA II ports which can entertain 6 SATA drives while you have 1 IDE port which can entertain 2 IDE devices. One IDE device is already there as CD/DVD Drive.

Thanks & Regards. ...
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14 Feb 2019   #36
loninappleton

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Updated M/board drivers, now I have Unknown Device in the Windows Device Manager


This link addresses the question on an MSI board about unknown things in Device Manager
just as I see them and in the screen shot. It's what happens after a BIOS update. What is needed is go into Device Manager then select whatever HD I have and ask for a driver. I'm hoping Win7 can do this
without one of those "have disk" prompts which I've always had problems doing.



I was going to closebut I think it belongs in this thread.
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15 Feb 2019   #37
Vineet Garg

Windows 7 Ultimate x32 With Sp1 + Vista Ultimate x32 with Sp1 & Sp2 !!
 
 

Hi,

1) What is the exact model & make of problematic pc & its motherboard ?

2) What is/are the hardware ID(s) of the unknown device(s) in the device manager ?

Device Manager - Finding Unknown Devices

3) What is the Installed BIOS version ?
Run this .bat file & let it load the information. Look for installed BIOS driver version.

SystemInfo.bat

Let me know.

Thanks & Regards. ...


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15 Feb 2019   #38
loninappleton

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

There are a lot of good steps here. Things I didn't know so I'll sort it out and then give
any findings.
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17 Feb 2019   #39
wither 2

Windows 7 Pro SP1 64 bit
 
 

You might want to either edit that or remove it since it shows your product key.
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17 Feb 2019   #40
loninappleton

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

can't edit a screen shot. I'll just take it down.
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