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Windows 7: intel matrix storage manager and windows 7 64bit

10 Dec 2009   #11

XP, Vista, W7 64bit Home Premium

My only other suggestion would be to uninstall the matrix console if thats the case and install the latest intel chipset drivers then reinstall the latest matrix console.
ps SORRY FOR NOT READING THE THREAD THRU im having a bad day here sygnus & chrysallis

Latest intel chipset drivers can be found here

Also read in your mobo manual your system can become unstable without the JMIC enabled .

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10 Dec 2009   #12

windows 8.1 Pro x64

I will try the 9.5 drivers soon, the disk drive is my boot drive the black 640 WD cavalier. I highlighted the same drive in the same screenshot inside the matrix console window to show which drive it was.

The drive appears to function ok (on version 8.7) but the fact it never completed its plug and play recognition made me wary of using it like that.

To the guy saying turn of jmicron please read my post, jmicron is on for a reason in that I deliberatly use it for 1 drive that isnt very compatible with AHCI, however I did disable the jmicron boot bios as it isnt needed for boot if thats what you meant.

The only 9.5 drivers I can find dont include any console they are just the barebone driver without an installer, I assume these are the only ones that are known to exist? so installation via device manager.
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10 Dec 2009   #13

Windows 10 Pro

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chrysalis View Post
The drive appears to function ok (on version 8.7) but the fact it never completed its plug and play recognition made me wary of using it like that.
You might want to take a good hard look at that HD. It "may" have an issue. However, it is curious that you have no issues(?) using 8.7 so...

If it's possible, swap drives and see what happens?
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13 Dec 2009   #14

windows 8.1 Pro x64

its a brand new hdd and is recognised by microsoft ahci so I am inclined to say its an issue between the drive and intel ahci. Bear in mind googling shows that alot of WD's newer models have problems with the drivers. 8.9 version in particular has a lot of complaints, I googled some very long threads on intels own website from users using the raid part of the driver getting random drive failures which stopped again when they downgraded back to 8.8 or 8.7.

wd64001als 640gig (not 500 gig which is older).
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18 Dec 2009   #15

windows 8.1 Pro x64

I been running the pc with the dell 8.7 drivers for a few days and right now copying lots of data between drives, seen no ill affects. Of course the drive still not properly detected in device manager tho.

I am now curious if it is 8.7 working or if dell modified these drivers and their mod stops the slow boot on my machine.
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18 Dec 2009   #16

windows 8.1 Pro x64

Well more fun and games.

I decided to try raid mode instead of ahci (not using raid but the raid mode in bios). Results were something like this.

The default windows driver behaves like the intel win7 ahci drivers, pause on bootup but no pause once booted. Drive is recognised in device manager.

Intel drivers 8.8,8.9 and 9.4 all pause on bootup but unlike the ahci driver they do recognise the drive in device manager, 2nd boot onwards the boot pause is extremely long nearly 10 minutes. In addition at every boot the hdd pauses again after login but once that pause is out of the way it runs normally. When it pauses this error is generated in the windows logs.

"iaStor0, did not respond within the timeout period"

When I googled the error there was a few people complaining about it happening on new western digital drives, in particular the new raptors and the black cavalier 640gig. One person mentioned his cdrom tho.
So with it paused on the desktop I decided to eject my dvd burner, it did nothing for about 5 seconds but when it ejected the system immediatly came to life. However at this point I decided to try the dell 8.7 drivers since the newer drivers were causing corruption errors. TWO different drives connected to my ich7 ran chkdsk on a bootup.

Like with AHCI these dell 8.7 drivers boot fast no pauses and no timeout errors, but unlike AHCI I now also have the drive recognised in device manager, however doing all this I have somehow managed to delete the stock windows raid driver from the system (I hope not also the stock AHCI) and it seems no system restore points were made at the points I was changing drivers. So if I ever decide to revert that driver is no longer available to me, it does exist in the driverstore directory but when attempting to use it there is a "system cannot find file" error.

Intel also replied to me apologising saying there is a few drives not compatible with their drivers in vista and windows 7, to do with LPM mode, they said they cannot disclose the list as they dont have permission of the hdd vendors. They wouldnt even confirm if my drive was one of them. They just said its a known issue. They wouldnt give me an answer as to why 8.7 boots normally and the newer drivers dont, they also wouldnt tell me if dell modified the driver inf file or not.

I found a page showing a supposed workaround for the pause on boot problem, but the workaround did not work for me. It involved deleting/renaming the paramaters key for iastor. Intel's own site suggests using port 3 on the ich7 to fix the problem, this I may attempt at a future date to see if it helps, as well as unplugging my dvd burner (which is plugged into ich7 PATA port).
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08 Mar 2010   #17

windows 8.1 Pro x64

ok an update since I never updated before.

I have now been running the windows ahci (msahci.sys) driver for a few months since the last post. The final decision came after I did benchmarks.

I did what I considered a basic benchmark emulating real life activity and to test what ncq is supposed to improve, I ran 2 hdtune's side by side on my boot drive.

On the intel drivers cpu usage was higher, burst was a bit lower and the random access went crazy high.

On the msahci driver, cpu usage and burst were a little better but random access was the same as if I was only running one benchmark on its own, so the dual access wasnt affecting the random access (which is what I think ncq is supposed to achieve).

As a comparison I repeated the same test on the drive that was on the jmicron in ide mode and this beat both my other drivers for burst speed.

Here is full test results.

test involved 2 hdtune pro's running at once on drive.

on ahci mode using intel drivers on my 640 gig black cavalier drive.

average speed 1.5meg/sec
access time 36ms
burst speed 106meg/sec

on raid mode using intel drivers same drive

average speed 1.2meg/sec
access time 45ms
burst speed 102meg/sec

on ahci mode using default msachi.sys

average speed 4.4 meg/sec
access time 12.5ms O_o
burst speed 106 meg/sec

and comparison samsung drive on jmicron in ide mode

average speed 4.7 meg/sec
access time 48ms
burst speed 112 meg/sec
notice also the average speed takes a nose dive on the intel drivers.
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03 Aug 2011   #18

windows 8.1 Pro x64

an update on this.

I have the same drives in a new system, basically new motherboard and processor. On the P55 chipset I have none of the problems I reproted in this thread, so I am assuming the issue was the old ICH7 and especially the old ICH7 bios asus put on the board probably was incompatible with my newest drive.

In addition whilst on the ICH7 I seen performance drop from MS achi drivers to intel achi drivers, on the P55 the intel drivers have the same performance as MS ahci but with half the cpu usage. The only issue I am finding questionable is all of my drives only seem to be running at sata150 spec not sata300 as I get about 130meg/sec burst. But otherwise fine.
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02 Oct 2011   #19

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1

I just did a clean W7 x64 install on my Dell 1545 Inspiron. I received the Intel Family Chipset Driver from Windows update, as well as my Ethernet and Dell LAN drivers too. I have been running without the Intel Matrix Storage that came already installed on my machine and it seems to run fine. I have the Dell drivers disc that came with my machine, and I can reinstall the Matrix Storage manager if I need to.

I have been absolutely scouring Google and I have no idea if I really need the Matrix Storage software/driver on my machine. Do I really need this, as I can't tell any difference with, or without it?
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