ShellFolderFix - Manage folder window positions/size

JonPattrsn75 said:

Does ShellFolderFix have a silent installation switch?

Nothing I've added explicitly at least. The installer toolkit used to create the installer might have some functionality, but I don't know. I'm a bit short on time currently, but if you want you can check Inno Setup Help yourself and see if there's anything useful. I see there's /SILENT or /VERYSILENT but not sure if that works for install or only uninstall.

EDIT: btw the issue kazink and you reported has been fixed, it didn't have anything to do with the database being full, it also happened on almost an empty db. It's related to the temp handling when the setting "Temporarily use window as is" is used. I'll release an update soon, just wanted to test it a bit first.

peterm6389 said:

when I close a desktop folder which has icons, when I reopen it I get the navigation pane, despite the fact I removed it before closing the folder. I then have to remove it all over again.

This is something Windows controls, SFF affects nothing other than the size and position of the windows.

You could try going into "Folder Options", in a folder window that looks the way you like, and click "Apply to Folders" on the "View" page.

It looks like I'm going to have to live with it . Is there any chance of extending SFF to save the folder views as well as size and position? Windows does seem to remember one setting which it applies to everything. If I change the view, the new setting gets applied to everything. Without knowing too much about how SFF works, I thought maybe there's information that could be intercepted and stored.

peterm6389 said:

Is there any chance of extending SFF to save the folder views as well as size and position?

I'm not sure. It's something that I would've liked to add from the very start, but there's no normal access to that kind of stuff. The only way would be to try to find hacks and tricks, which takes a lot of time with no guarantee of success.

weird and annoying behavior:
If I search an open folder, the 'search results' change the size/position of window, which is ok, but when I hit back button to return to original folder, it does not snap back to original s/loc.

I am running defaults in settings ( I think).

So I assume you gave up on the snapped windows... I had hoped it might be dealt with by Microsoft by now, but I guess they don't give **** about us as long as we already spent our money...

drumtrucker said:

weird and annoying behavior:
If I search an open folder, the 'search results' change the size/position of window, which is ok, but when I hit back button to return to original folder, it does not snap back to original s/loc.

That happens if the folder (before the search results) is seen as temporary, meaning a folder that hasn't gotten an explicit size and/or position assigned. I had been thinking about adding some extra handling to avoid that special case with search windows, I'll look at it again and see if it's simple to fix for the coming update (due soon).

Meanwhile it's possible to turn off so search results resize the window ("Update window for search results" option), in case you don't want it to resize or it's less annoying for you.

jemcgarvey said:

So I assume you gave up on the snapped windows...

Not necessarily given up, it's still on the list of things to look into, but unfortunately I can't say when/if I get time for those less critical things where success is questionable.

Wow I'm curious. Do people really not get used to snapping? Personally that's one of the number one reasons I was excited about Win7. I have to say in a good days work, I probably slap windows right and left a hundred times.

Maybe it's just the fate of the 2560 pixel minority...

jemcgarvey said:

Wow I'm curious. Do people really not get used to snapping? Personally that's one of the number one reasons I was excited about Win7. I have to say in a good days work, I probably slap windows right and left a hundred times.

Maybe it's just the fate of the 2560 pixel minority...

oh windows snap, i do find it useless let me count the ways:

it's not tiling
there is no shortcut key
there is no command button in the upper right
ie: '-' minimize, '<-' snap left, 'square' maximize, '->' snap right, 'x' close
it's not tiling...
I will often have lot's of windows open and will want to see them all so
I'd like to tile them like I can in a lot of user programs: afik, it can't be done

Areo peek: use show desktop (and why move show desktop to the right?) and is
there a shortcut? why not?

Areo shake? huh? just make it a button and shortcut! doh!

These kinds of things that MS has done with win 7 along with the removal of:
custom window positions, custom icon positions in an 'icon view' window, custom
view settings by window.... is why people, who try to maximize their production
with-in the os, are so annoyed by MS and so love programs like shellfolderfix and
classicstartmenu.

As a society we constantly worry about lost man hours due to illness, to such
an extent that business, government and physicians promote flu shots on a nation
wide basis 'to save lost man-hours'. How much lost time is created by MS changing
the most basic functionality of their OS? And not only changing it but forcing it
to be 'mouse centric' (ie inefficient) by not providing (and in some cases even
removing) shortcuts to features that have no business being mouse-locked like
areo snap?

Well I haven't personally learned the shortcuts, and I don't like tiling. With a large enough screen it is like having two desktops side by side, and I'm only really working between two at a time, and reaching over to the left side for the taskbar is pretty easy. Therefore, the first thing I do when something opens is snap it right or left, and if this was remembered it would be just fine, but currently this actually "undoes" whatever was remembered, and I have to manually stretch every single program into 50% of the screen if I want it to stay that way.

Are you talking program windows or folder windows because program windows will
(almost always) remember their last position. It's the folder windows that are a
bugger.

And btw I misspoke when I said there are no shortcuts, DOH! Because of this
discussion I just thought I'd google 'win 7 snap shortcuts' and viola there they are.

Again, I say, DOH!

Still don't like snap though

Have you considered using the 'workspace' feature of sff?

To quote tweaker:

'- workspaces, allows you to save "presets" of your open folders (can be useful if you work on different projects and are used to have a set of folders open specifically for each project), or just restore a common folder setup in case windows messes it up'

Again this applies to folder windows not program windows.