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Windows 7: What Cpu Cooler Is best?

25 Feb 2011   #11
krazymate

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Punkster View Post
Good luck with the buying

Keep us updated

Will do !


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25 Feb 2011   #12
ezeht

 
 

For 1 them bench tests are deceiving- Look at the low aa af- the 470 has more memory more shaders and more high bus speeds and in games where you have tessellation the more the better- and if you go upping af aa over 16x or 4x in the tests- the 470 480 and 570 and 580 is the better cards- the 5 cards use less power run less hot. The 560ti is not a bad card- the 470 80 and 57 58 are better. The 560ti is a good mid road card- the 47 48 are still fine cards they do run more hot. If my money I would get a 570. The ti has more texture units- I would bet money push settings over the 16x 4x the 470 would smoke the ti.

Coolers well V8's and such are huge and stress on the mobo- coolers with more than 1 fan cool lil more than coolers with 1 fan. I am afraid of wet cooling period. Here are 2 coolers under 30 bucks and you could push your over clock as high as you can go on air. I like the corsair a lil better but the instructions are poor. With some cases you can install either cooler with the mobo mounted to the tray- if the back of the tray has a hole cut in it- but even then the corners etc of the back plate bracket can make it impossible- its best to install the back plate what ever before you mount the mobo to the tray.

Both of these coolers are great and under 30 bucks- the corsair can push my cpu up around 4.2- from 2.66 is not bad and on air too.. I have the corsair- and looking at instructions I think it is more easy to install. Cooler master may have did a better job with instructions tho- the corsair left out half the instructions for half the parts in the box and on its site same thing- tho instructions at corsairs site is more than in the box they are still not complete or not a month or so ago anyway.. You can shop around to find best prices etc.>

* For top down types and if will work with your mobo- I think the thermalright si128's are sweet- it would not work with my p55 tho- and they are like 50 bucks if you can still find them. It is another si128se with more holes cut into it and cools better than the original if you use a fan- the se is the silent ed- but can use a fan if you like.. At idle and low fan speeds and using ac mx2 my cpu temps easy run 2 to 8f or more cooler than system or ambient temps in my case- the/my tr si128 or corsair a50 coolers and ac mx2 are excellent. Folks may argue but tests show top downs generally cool better than tower types- maybe because they blow air over parts of the mobo or chip sets or memory- but they generally cool 2 to 4f better than a near same tower type- ac mx2 cools like 4f better than silver5 and mx2 does not transfer currents etc and lasts 8 years and no cure time. AC mx2 is way more safe- s5 lasts 2 or so years then becomes brittle and has a 200 hour cure time and does not cool as well- get sloppy with s5 you can ruin a mobo or vid card fast- not so with mx2 etc. mx3 is even better- gelid 2 or 3 is about the same as ac products- Ac cools a lil better in most test but the gelid cost less and more product in the packages too- or normally.. Research such things for your selves..>

Newegg.com - CORSAIR CAFA50 120mm CPU Cooler

Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7

http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_pa...r_si128se.html

For my p55 install I used 2 rubber bans to hold the back plate bracket in place then mounted the mobo to my tray- leave the plastic isolator on the back plate and add the 4 carbon fiber washers 1 each post- then through the mobo- attach the top mount plate the the cooler block etc from the under side- Do not over tighten when you mount the cooler- Also thermal paste can give ya 4 to 12f cooler than some pastes- ac mx2 or 3 is better than ac silver 5- better in many ways- you folks can read that tho.. Instructions are not the same for the amd mounts- the amd mounts are more easy I think.

I prefer top down coolers that blow air over parts of the mobo etc- but if using any tower type cooler- you also need to figure out if your case can take it- like if it has fans on the side panel- The tower coolers might not like the fan on the side panel and is in the way- You could move fans to the outside of the panel or get another case or cooler maybe.. Some coolers weigh near 2x some and do not cool as good or maybe just a lil better- Things to think about. Wet cooling stuff can cause more probs- and you certainly have to replace it more often than air coolers- with air you might have to replace a fan every so often.. Thats just me tho..

If buying a nv card buy evga or sparkle- evga check and see if it has a life time or not- not all evgas have life time all sparkles do have life time- and get a card with a good cooler that blows the hot air out of the case or have a oven- a confection oven at that..

Hope it helps some- The ti is nice but for same money the 470 is better- push game settings more high than in the tests you would see that.. Many high end cards do not perform as well as many would think at lower game settings- that is the nature of the gaming beast- and most folks know bench tests can be fudged to favor what ever is wanted like ati over nv etc- it has been done forever. Folks worried about heat and are so so gamers the ti is plenty fine- the 580 walks tho.. Wish I had cash for 1- but would settle for a 470 480 or 570 if my money- if give to me anything better than what I have is good , so..

Good luck- hope ya get what you want and its all good. See ya..
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25 Feb 2011   #13
cartel

Windows 7 SP1 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

I use the zalman 9700NT, works great.

Easy to clean too if you smoke.
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25 Feb 2011   #14
ezeht

 
 

Ya cleaning is another reason I liked my thermalright products so much- it is easy to install or remove them from the top of the mobo- no back of mobo stuff- My corsair heat sink can be removed ok- the back plate will hang a lil- it is more a prob when mounting the mobo to the tray- I do not have to remove the back plate parts to remove the cooler for cleaning.

This house has lots of dirt and dust- I did stop smoking in my room like 2 years ago- helps a lot- I do not have to work so hard cleaning it a few times a year- not like when smoking and the tar etc..
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25 Feb 2011   #15
ezeht

 
 

Note: on mounting coolers to amd mobos and from my own experiences. I am not sure I like the mount for the corsair on amd 2 3 mobos- notice its cooler hold down if I am thinking or looking at it right- it just catches the 1 center knob on both sides of the am2 cooler brackets on many mobos - some mobos have an older type or comes with the tr 128 has 3 knobs on each side and the tr si128 cooler hold down spreads the mount over the 3 knobs and not just the 1 center it can break and the cooler fall off.

My si128 fell off of my fatality an9 32x- the knob on the top of the cpu cooler bracket on the mobo broke off- I did not think about it during the install but had a better bracket in the box- I have seen some mobos have the better 3 knob cooler bracket- not all tho- the 3rd party coolers can be right heavy versus the stock with cpu coolers- Some of the coolers are massive and do not cool as well as many smaller or might cool 2 to 4f more but is it- Size does not necessarily matter- read reviews and bench tests. I would take less weight and stress and 4f less over some monster just to talk about.. Just me tho.

See ya..
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25 Feb 2011   #16
krazymate

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ezeht View Post
For 1 them bench tests are deceiving- Look at the low aa af- the 470 has more memory more shaders and more high bus speeds and in games where you have tessellation the more the better- and if you go upping af aa over 16x or 4x in the tests- the 470 480 and 570 and 580 is the better cards- the 5 cards use less power run less hot. The 560ti is not a bad card- the 470 80 and 57 58 are better. The 560ti is a good mid road card- the 47 48 are still fine cards they do run more hot. If my money I would get a 570. The ti has more texture units- I would bet money push settings over the 16x 4x the 470 would smoke the ti.

Coolers well V8's and such are huge and stress on the mobo- coolers with more than 1 fan cool lil more than coolers with 1 fan. I am afraid of wet cooling period. Here are 2 coolers under 30 bucks and you could push your over clock as high as you can go on air. I like the corsair a lil better but the instructions are poor. With some cases you can install either cooler with the mobo mounted to the tray- if the back of the tray has a hole cut in it- but even then the corners etc of the back plate bracket can make it impossible- its best to install the back plate what ever before you mount the mobo to the tray.

Both of these coolers are great and under 30 bucks- the corsair can push my cpu up around 4.2- from 2.66 is not bad and on air too.. I have the corsair- and looking at instructions I think it is more easy to install. Cooler master may have did a better job with instructions tho- the corsair left out half the instructions for half the parts in the box and on its site same thing- tho instructions at corsairs site is more than in the box they are still not complete or not a month or so ago anyway.. You can shop around to find best prices etc.>

* For top down types and if will work with your mobo- I think the thermalright si128's are sweet- it would not work with my p55 tho- and they are like 50 bucks if you can still find them. It is another si128se with more holes cut into it and cools better than the original if you use a fan- the se is the silent ed- but can use a fan if you like.. At idle and low fan speeds and using ac mx2 my cpu temps easy run 2 to 8f or more cooler than system or ambient temps in my case- the/my tr si128 or corsair a50 coolers and ac mx2 are excellent. Folks may argue but tests show top downs generally cool better than tower types- maybe because they blow air over parts of the mobo or chip sets or memory- but they generally cool 2 to 4f better than a near same tower type- ac mx2 cools like 4f better than silver5 and mx2 does not transfer currents etc and lasts 8 years and no cure time. AC mx2 is way more safe- s5 lasts 2 or so years then becomes brittle and has a 200 hour cure time and does not cool as well- get sloppy with s5 you can ruin a mobo or vid card fast- not so with mx2 etc. mx3 is even better- gelid 2 or 3 is about the same as ac products- Ac cools a lil better in most test but the gelid cost less and more product in the packages too- or normally.. Research such things for your selves..>

Newegg.com - CORSAIR CAFA50 120mm CPU Cooler

Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7

Ultimate CPU Cooling Solutions! USA

For my p55 install I used 2 rubber bans to hold the back plate bracket in place then mounted the mobo to my tray- leave the plastic isolator on the back plate and add the 4 carbon fiber washers 1 each post- then through the mobo- attach the top mount plate the the cooler block etc from the under side- Do not over tighten when you mount the cooler- Also thermal paste can give ya 4 to 12f cooler than some pastes- ac mx2 or 3 is better than ac silver 5- better in many ways- you folks can read that tho.. Instructions are not the same for the amd mounts- the amd mounts are more easy I think.

I prefer top down coolers that blow air over parts of the mobo etc- but if using any tower type cooler- you also need to figure out if your case can take it- like if it has fans on the side panel- The tower coolers might not like the fan on the side panel and is in the way- You could move fans to the outside of the panel or get another case or cooler maybe.. Some coolers weigh near 2x some and do not cool as good or maybe just a lil better- Things to think about. Wet cooling stuff can cause more probs- and you certainly have to replace it more often than air coolers- with air you might have to replace a fan every so often.. Thats just me tho..

If buying a nv card buy evga or sparkle- evga check and see if it has a life time or not- not all evgas have life time all sparkles do have life time- and get a card with a good cooler that blows the hot air out of the case or have a oven- a confection oven at that..

Hope it helps some- The ti is nice but for same money the 470 is better- push game settings more high than in the tests you would see that.. Many high end cards do not perform as well as many would think at lower game settings- that is the nature of the gaming beast- and most folks know bench tests can be fudged to favor what ever is wanted like ati over nv etc- it has been done forever. Folks worried about heat and are so so gamers the ti is plenty fine- the 580 walks tho.. Wish I had cash for 1- but would settle for a 470 480 or 570 if my money- if give to me anything better than what I have is good , so..

Good luck- hope ya get what you want and its all good. See ya..

thanks alot for all this info like being at school again !
but yeh i no its either gunna be the 560 or 570 for me
youve been repped !
thanks alot for takeing time to answering my questions

cheers bud !
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25 Feb 2011   #17
vierasniper

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by krazymate View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Punkster View Post
Thank you.

Well. about the GTX 470, here's a comparison chart with the GTX 560 Ti (being the 560 better)

GeForce GTX 470 vs GeForce GTX 560 Ti Performance Comparison Benchmarks @ Hardware Compare

Here's a GTX 560 Ti:

Newegg.com - Palit NE5X56T01102-1140F GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Same price as the GTX 470!

Looks great again bud !
i think ill go for a 560 now i see the price is round about the same but your getting more ? i wanna be playing battlefield bad company 2 maxed out with black ops and dirt 2

Gunna be awesome cant wait !!
i see the differences is only about 5 - 10 fps more but still every little helps ?
thankyou again
My GTX 260 can handle all those games maxed out. your lucky your on a quad-core.
i got got a dual-core @ 2.7
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25 Feb 2011   #18
jr26

Win7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I recently upgraded to a 560 Ti and its just fantastic so I definitely recommend it for the price (plus there are many on newegg right now where you get Just Cause 2 and Mafia II FREE with it!). I previously had a 6870 (for a whole month thanks to AMD's driver problems) and so far the 560 is a very good improvement. My previous card before that was a GTX 260 and both the 6870 and 560 are large improvements over it.
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25 Feb 2011   #19
jr26

Win7 Ultimate x64
 
 

For a good cheap CPU cooler I recommend the Cooler Master Hyper 212 plus. It really brought my 955 temps under control over the junk stock heatsink/fan. At high load I was approaching 70c! Now it rarely hits a much safer 50c.
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26 Feb 2011   #20
ezeht

 
 

Thanks- I just try and help like I hope others will help me. It is more to just I want this or that - takes some research maybe less probs when ready to install etc.

You should be happy with either of them vid cards- Good luck.

Wish you all here the best..
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