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Windows 7: Games won't run on Win7 x64 ANY of them

28 Feb 2011   #31
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

There's no issue with the processor itself, just the motherboard chipset, which is being addressed by Intel. In fact not many users aren't even concerned with the issue - which has to do with certain ports degrading over a long period of time.

Bottom line is there's nothing wrong with the processor itself. And I'm not even sure the issue affects notebooks as the issue was discovered very early. Anyways the issue has been thoroughly discussed here - Intel Discloses Chip Glitch

Again.... the only issue the OP has is a GPU driver issue.


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28 Feb 2011   #32
ezeht

 
 

From what I read it is no fix for p67's or estimated out for the masses until april- So My thinking is- all are bad until then and if still being sold. As said stuff can be sold knowing it is or might be defective- once they get your money you might be hooked in.

Another point is many folks do not even know of such problems and might think his probs are something else- And Seems these p67's have other probs too- I understand new just out teething pains- but gees.

I might not normally buy just out first gen stuff anyway- After reading about the p67 stuff I do not want it for any reason- Free I might think about it or maybe try and sell it.. Maybe I am crazy- I do not care for anything to do with p67 stuff- I would buy something else or wait.

Others can do as you like. I was just posting info- ya maybe I am afraid of it. Again others may not know the p67's have probs- maybe the info will help might not? Ha ha lil else seems to help- My brain auto says its p67 intel junk. I think I read lap tops have odd problems too. I think different probs might be more wide spread than admitted, it would not be the first time for such things. Maybe later and a few bios or driver updates will help.

I hope the best for these folks. Take care..
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01 Mar 2011   #33
Tlakoyo

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ezeht View Post
Only the computer industry can get away with such things and do it everyday buggy games all of it. And because of paid high reviews and fan boys they stay in business and continue to sell us half working junk. If it was jeans sneakers or a car or anything else it would be courts and maybe they would go under. Not so for anything computer related- They can pretty much state anything and sell defective half working junk and get away with it.. Its not right IMO.

* Again- I do not know if different for laptops- but you can see here at msi forums- and is the same at asus or any others, the sticky thread talking about p67 recalls and nothing but thread after thread after thread of complaints since the first day the p67's came out- it is sickening..

It is not beyond Mirosoft intel or msi asus acer who ever to sell defective stuff- hook ya- then fix it as they go- They get paid- you have head akes maybe depression and always uncertainty- it is not right..

Wait.. what??? XD Ok I've noticed you're not very happy when you hear about faulty things, yet you seem to fail to understand that I do NOT have a processor issue (I'm sorry dud but that's what it seems ) nor do I have buggy games or a defective p67! it is a GPU driver issue, the games are not like buggy or my notebook a half working piece of junk (well yeah it kinda is for I can't play games satisfactorily XD) windows works fine, I watch movies listen to music and do pretty much everything else with a rather speedy response from the notebook AND the processor, the only thing that I'm having troubles with is the GPU driver crashing after 5 min of gameplay (fluid and visually satisfactory gameplay as far as I can tell) and I've said it before several times through the post ya know Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you have some pretty fair reasons to post what you are posting, but if you asked me I'd say that you'd be happier starting a new post that reads The p67 is nothing but junk, or something like that

Anyway I looked up for the Sandy bridge recall issue, and it seems like it has a design flaw that could render the machine with a limited comunication speed or no comunication at all with Serial ATA devices (i.e. the HDD) but it will happen to just 3 to 5% of such processors after some 3 years of use depending on how it is used. So you see? It's not like the end of the world or the end of intel, in fact I think it is a rather positive thing that they make public the flaw themselves and offer to replace the processor for free, you know it happens and as long as engineering is performed by people it will have flaws you know, no matter if they work for intel or any other company we trust.. or don't... that's why patches and fixes exist, if everything was meant to work perfectly the first time it's released we'd be working with a Windows 7 build 1.0 OS with a Catalyst 1.0 GPU driver and so on, I DO KNOW about the imperialism and capitalism but hey, it is the technicians and engineers we are to address on this kind of forum right? And we should talk about such problems shouldn't we? but yeah ...

I called Acer and indeed Intel is offering to replace the processor at the end of this month (yeah the mobile sandy bridge processors are also affected, which kinda sux) and additionally, acer is offering to change my choice to another model (giving me the price difference) or a refund, which I would rather avoid for what I've already posted here, there is no other notebook with these specs and within my budget (Falcon Northwest has the sweetest and most powerful notebooks known to man, yet only rockstars and Bill gates can afford those), cuz ya know if I get the driver fixed this notebook is certainly a bang for my buck! lol

And yeah dud you know I'll be honest with you, you gotta stop haitin'

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AstaLaVista View Post
According to the Acer Page, here are the drivers for your HD

http://global-download.acer.com/GDFiles/Driver/VGA/VGA_AMD_8.783.2.0000_W7x64_A.zip?acerid=634272910897944469&Step1=Notebook&Step2=Aspire&Step3=Aspire% 205950G&OS=731&LC=en&BC=Acer&SC=PA_6

If this link does not work, I got it from here...
Download

Check the Attachments as well.
I've tried those already, they only are the ones the notebook came with when I got it, and indeed the faulty ones. Thanks for the reply though
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01 Mar 2011   #34
ezeht

 
 

Ha ha dude- I am just trying to help- and If you check out these game forum threads near half are lap top probs and no fixes- I noticed your cpu for 1 is 2 gig each core and is p67- I did say I did not know if probs are same for lap top p67's

But I do know all games have min and max specs for the games and very few games in the last 5 or 6 years run on any less than a 2.4 gig cpu period- that is just the facts- tho yours and my system has turbo boost- that does not mean maybe 1 thing to the game if it is MAYBE ONLY seeing 2 gigs and maybe has no idea it is 2.6 in turbo boost- Ha ha I am not the person gaming on a lap top with problems- I will try and help- I do not did not mean to offend ya if I did I am sorry.

Ha ha cpu specs do not matter- nope and they just post such things or on the boxes just to use space or ink- make sense to me.. The games or maybe 99% do not care if you have over 2 cores or more than 4 gigs of memory- tho to read from some it must give your games systems while gaming magical powers or something. I read from folks I have an awe powerful system and 12 gigs of memory I do not have to tweak my system turn off extra stuff in the back ground just like I had to do 6 years ago and on less powerful systems- A lot of it is comical really.

If it is a said simple driver issue- Well if mine I think it would have been fixed and or I would have done it on my own or by now any way- Seems your system is not working right?? Ha ha then you get offended. OK.

Ha ha gaming and lap top in the same sentence makes me roll laughing- but hey what can I say..
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01 Mar 2011   #35
ezeht

 
 

Seems to me you read or take in what you care too- I also said msi and or intel has and is down playing the probs and is more wide spread than admitted too and way more than your said 2 or 3% over a said 3 years is having problems right now out of the box- I also said the p67's are having a lot of other probs not necessarily related to the recalls.

Maybe you make up stuff to talk about- I did post ya the 1 link just to msi forums alone If you check back a few more pages to the very day the p67's hit the market it is nothing but probs Period. Then you can go to every other mobo site and read on intel systems and is the same thing.

I guess or guess you do know acer does not make mobos they get them from say msi or ecs or asus who ever. I can be wrong tho. If I was god maybe I would have told ya how to fix your rig by now- I was tossing out ideas- hate me..

No- bug and half assed crap is not the norms unless talking pc stuff, and intel or micro soft will and has put out defective junk and knew it when put to market and yes will fix things as they go- and take their sweet time about it- they have your money- You must not have read I also said intel is trying to put the costs over on them makers of the mobos- intel is trying to get over actually- but you read or think as you may- I will do the same.

I say again- I am very happy I did not buy p67 junk- I use the word junk it is my opinion- As a fact intel was not forth coming on the p67 probs it was feed back from mobo site forums and complaints and pretty much pushed your intel into admitting it was probs at all or they are at fault- but hey- you know more then me and have a perfect running lap top-

I will bet money intel knew the stuff was defective maybe found out late in the game and did not care to trash billions of dollars of hardware- Nope they played chevy and put it on the streets anyway even knowing it might blow up in your faces- and knowing some folks will never know the differences or ever even read on such things- Maybe it is just me and self pride- I would have trashed it all and taken the hit and try and have a perfect rep- I would not try and get over on folks. Chevy would put it on the streets and let a few hundred folks die and then try and lie and fight the courts then be made to pay- and years later and after all is paid out- you find out chevy knew all the time it was dangerous- They still made money and would have made less if they trashed it all as soon as they knew it was defective- But ya intel is above such things.

MSI who ever best I read upto a few weeks ago did not know who is going to pay in the end- MSI etc is taking it on them selves mostly- and because it has msi on the mobos or asus on asus etc if they did not have the pride in its name- well You would have less info or chances of getting the problems fixed if left to just intel- the great intel loved intel- it is comical.

I buy stuff build it and bench- well stress test some 30 hours or more total using both memtest86 and prime95 and try to break it, if it can not take it it is faulty I return it etc. I buy thinking it is supposed to be perfect- Not faulty or a chance 2 or 3% or half or 3/4 might blow up and burn down my house at any minute- Ha ha I am laughing so hard. It is one thing for a thought as perfect product breaks or some- but selling or knowing and buying defective stuff from the jump is a whole other story.

Intel is trying to get over- but hey- I made it all up just to talk about something. Ok

Is it not intel giving ya that low ball maybe 2 or 3% over 3 years- ya right.. OK.

More power to ya..

I will not bother any more or on this thread maybe- You might figure out your probs- I have other things to do- I will leave things at that.. I will not piss ya off any more or talk ya to death..

I wish ya the best.
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01 Mar 2011   #36
Tlakoyo

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

... ok, hey there thanks for the reply, and uhm... no I'm not offended don't worry ... ahmm no I don't personally love intel and... the laptop works fine it doesn't blow up on my face XD the uhm... GPU driver just stops responding after 5 min of gaming ... I didn't make up anything and... yep there are gaming laptops believe it or not I also don't rely on magical powers to run my games ... lol well I sometimes do XD

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ezeht View Post
But I do know all games have min and max specs for the games and very few games in the last 5 or 6 years run on any less than a 2.4 gig cpu period- that is just the facts- Ha ha I am not the person gaming on a lap top with problems

If it is a said simple driver issue- Well if mine I think it would have been fixed and or I would have done it on my own or by now any way- Seems your system is not working right?? Ha ha then you get offended. OK.
Ahm.. let's see, for what I know, those 5 to 6 years old games require 2.6Ghz as the minimum processor frequency, yet since they are 6 years old games they are likely designed for a dual or single core processor arquitecture, not a quad core, with means that they cannot benefit from multi-threading and will still perform as if the processor was a dual or single core (that's what I've read, I got you the sources below ) and we should also keep always in mind that it is not the same a given 2.0Ghz quad core than a 2.0Ghz dual core (the latter being the one required by the games you are talking about) if the application is designed to benefit from multi-threading the quad core will perform a faster task than the dual core, even though both run at a 2.0Ghz frequency.

And no, games don't have such thing as max specs XD

Applications and games reportedly designed for a quad core arquitecture:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1263103
List of Most Demanding and Quad Core Games - Refresh

And yeah, just for you to know, having a quad core @2.0Ghz doesn't mean that each core runs at 2.0Ghz giving me the equivalent of a 8.0Ghz single core processor, it's just not like that, though the quad core @ 2.0 Ghz does of course overrun the 2.0Ghz single core (or dual core):

Quad Core vs Dual Core

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ezeht View Post
I read from folks I have an awe powerful system and 12 gigs of memory I do not have to tweak my system turn off extra stuff in the back ground just like I had to do 6 years ago and on less powerful systems- A lot of it is comical really.
.. well I'm just asking but is that supposed to be me? XD cuz I didn't read it from folks, the machine is here right under my hands, and yep it runs pretty smoothly and fine, the games do look great too as far as I can tell, (the GPU driver is unstable though, but yeah you are on a deep denial now XD) and yep, it's fast not just because the 12Gb of RAM (I'm sure I'm not even using that much RAM), but because the GPU and the CPU.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ezeht View Post
I say again- I am very happy I did not buy p67 junk- I use the word junk it is my opinion- As a fact intel was not forth coming on the p67 probs it was feed back from mobo site forums and complaints and pretty much pushed your intel into admitting it was probs at all or they are at fault- but hey- you know more then me and have a perfect running lap top-
Once again, it is not the processor nor the p67 that is giving me trouble it is the GPU driver XD


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ezeht View Post
I guess or guess you do know acer does not make mobos they get them from say msi or ecs or asus who ever. I can be wrong tho. If I was god maybe I would have told ya how to fix your rig by now- I was tossing out ideas- hate me..
Yep, as far as I'm concerned it is indeed msi and asus who manufacture the motherboards, all acer, asus and msi are taiwanese companies so yeah I know, and you don't need to be god to help, maybe if you were just a little less of a troll you would help XD and I don't hate you I don't even know you XD

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ezeht View Post
Ha ha cpu specs do not matter- nope and they just post such things or on the boxes just to use space or ink
Ahm... I'd say they do matter no I'm just kiddin I do get your ever amusing sarcasm, but what was meant wasn't that the CPU doesn't matter but that the GPU takes a bigger part when it comes to rendering games, that's all...

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ezeht View Post
Ha ha gaming and lap top in the same sentence makes me roll laughing- but hey what can I say..
Ahm... I'll just get you the links XD

Alienware M17x Gaming Laptop Details | Dell
DRX Laptops for Gaming and Business | Falcon Northwest
Shop for a Gaming Laptop, Gaming Laptop PC, Gaming Notebook - NVIDIA
Gaming Laptops 2011 - TopTenREVIEWS

Once again, I'd go for the Falcon Northwest if I had the budget XD

but yeah, told ya, you gotta stop hatin'

For everyone else that actually tried to help me, thanks I called acer on this GPU drivers issue and they're taking the notebook for a check, thus making them the ones who will sort it out
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01 Mar 2011   #37
ezeht

 
 

It is ok man- I am over it. 2 gig cpu is 2gig cpu multi core or not. Max specs was meant to be recommended specs and even then say so and so dual core say 2.4 what ever- if the min specs are above what your cpu actually is can be probs all in its self period- you guys make up try and rationalize things how you see fit- if the game says min of 2.4 and you are running 2 I do not have to do the math. it is plain and simple and common sense.

The point I was trying to make most games only use 2 cores and 4 gigs of memory is just that the games does not see or care about your extra period. And you best have your system tweaked for gaming or you can still have performance probs and even tho you have 2 cores and 57 gigs of memory in reserve not being used by the game- the game does not care at all it only cares about what it needs to run- as a fact some older games can be more hard on your system than more new games.

As a fact if it was a amd mobo or laptop the game might just see your cpu as 1 large 8gig cpu- that is what the hot fix in xp did. Best I remember reading it was auto added to vista and Id guess w7 too- Amd could not do multi threading or like windows likes etc. It was tons of probs they had to fix it and was the hot fix- Some older games maybe just a few years old might only see your base 2 gig cpu and not see turbo of 2.6- maybe some newer games see it fine- maybe the probs is a windwows thingy- I do not know.. New intel systems some have multi threading some do not- who knows if w7 hangs up or is buggy as far as those things go, I do not know..

Even in this game area is a sticky for said gaming- tweaking your system for gaming etc- but ya that only matters for folks with 6 year old systems- Ha ha it never said that at all- the facts are the same things that mattered 6 years ago matter today- do as you may. Folks can not make folks read the stickys or other info or make you do or believe anything- is just the facts. We are all popping off ideas trying to help or it would be fixed or no one try at all to help. Heat all of it matters to day just like 6 years ago. It is always the same things for lap top users and gaming- what can I say..

Every game read me on earth says the same things as did 6 years ago- tweak for performance etc. update all drivers make sure your system meets min specs required for the game- turn off all extra back ground stuff. Well every one except lap top users it is hilarious.. I for got those lines was added to all performance or game read me info and min specs do not matter if using a lap top- I missed the memos- I am sorry for that.. All the info and common sense on earth was added just to take up space Has a side note all above info matters unless using a magical lap top- Ha ha..

No hater here- My system runs fine plays all my games- most powerful system I have had to date- I still do and have to tweak for performance etc- JUST LIKE I DID 6YEARS AGO. Being I record my game play I have to tweak for extra performance. 1366 mobos and multi gpus the most powerful systems on earth or desk top use- them folks have to worry about all the same things I have said over and over- what matters 6 years ago still matter and even on the boss hog systems- It is not rocket science..

I am over this thread. I tried to help- sorry I do not know how to help more or I would.

What ever man- I hope you get it fixed- I am not going on and on over this- you will fix it in time or maybe- I did not mean to upset ya if I did. I speak and such as best I can- I did not mean to sound mean or anything like that..

I think it is nap time for me. I wish ya the best..
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05 Apr 2011   #38
Loopy

Win 7 Home Premium x64-based
 
 
Adding Extensions

I have had that same problem on my laptop (all of those problems - seems like). And I wore google (and yahoo) out looking for a solution. I actually found one ... then I lost it. The thread started out saying something like: I believe I solved... or I think I solved...
Then there were these instructions to click start, type in the run box, click on tab, add .exe of the program. This works! I used it, several times. But now I forgot what to type in the box. And I can't seem to find that same thread. So if someone could remind us all what to type in the box to get a pop-up with tabs and an include box, then we would all be less frustrated.
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09 Apr 2011   #39
Tlakoyo

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Loopy View Post
I have had that same problem on my laptop
Can you please tell me the specs you had when you had that problem?

Now I found that if I set the GPU to run on a lower performance, the games stop crashing, of course I lose some frames per second, yet the GPU driver seems to stabilize, WHY ON EARTH IS THAT??


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12 Apr 2011   #40
Loopy

Win 7 Home Premium x64-based
 
 
Specs

You mean this:
OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Version 6.1.7600 Build 7600
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name SONI-PC
System Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard
System Model HP G71 Notebook PC
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU T4300 @ 2.10GHz, 2100 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date Hewlett-Packard F.20, 10/13/2009
SMBIOS Version 2.4
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "6.1.7600.16385"
User Name Soni-PC\Soni
Time Zone Mountain Daylight Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 3.90 GB
Available Physical Memory 2.71 GB
Total Virtual Memory 7.81 GB
Available Virtual Memory 6.44 GB
Page File Space 3.90 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys


According to the guy who said what to write in the "run" box to open a submenu and add .exe file extensions, the AMD and/or gforce of Win 7 is not compatible with most games unless you tell it to bypass those games by entering the file extension in the submenu. Wish I could remember what to type. Anyway, are these the right specs you were looking for?
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